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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Friday 02 January 15 21:52 GMT (UK)  »
It's all falling into place.

I've just found the baptism records for the children of Helen Dye (Thomas Dye and Mary Gillespie's daughter).

As you know she married James Veitch.  She must have been close to both her mother and step-mother, as her two daughters were baptised as:

Mary Gillespie Veitch born 2nd July 1865 and baptised on 5th November 1886 - and
Jeannie Cruickshanks Veitch born 19th August 1867 and baptised with her sister on 5th November 1886.

So, I think this certainly proves that Thomas was indeed married twice and that we have the correct marriages.

Just thought I'd let you all know.

Regards
Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Friday 02 January 15 15:26 GMT (UK)  »
LOL I didn't mean I was checking up on what you'd found for me, re. the marriage, just that I knew it was right and wanted to see if I could find it, and I couldn't.

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Friday 02 January 15 15:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that info Monica.  Your message came through just as I was replying to the one Dod sent.  His second message made more sense to me.

However, I just can't seem to get to grips with the SP site.  See the message I sent to Dod, re checking up on the marriage you found for me for Thomas Dye and Mary Gillespie.  I did the search and it came up saying NO MATCH.  This I MUST be doing SOMETHING wrong.

Any pointers?

Regards
Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Thursday 01 January 15 22:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Dod

Maybe it's getting late, but I'm getting a bit confused as to what you're actually saying in your message.

Not sure what your meant about the different matches and no matches

I agree that Sieg is more than likely a transcription error for Dieg (which should actually be Diey), but I'm a bit confused about the rest of it.

Regards
Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Thursday 01 January 15 21:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Monica and Jen

I'm getting a bit confused now about what you mean about emailing the site owner, and about the "enormous powerful database" he has.

How do I actually go about emailing a site owner, and I'm not sure where I'm supposed to be actually looking.  Am I missing something?  Can you point me in the right direction please.

Yeah the Dieg bit does sound more promising, because the "g" could have been mistakenly transcribed and actually been a "y" (which would make it more like the name we're tracing).

However, on Thomas's death it certainly shows his parents as Alexander Dye and Magdalene Reid (do we think that Maysie, etc. etc. is Magdalene)?

Any thoughts?

Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Thursday 01 January 15 20:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again Monica

Haven't got around to emailing you yet, (but I will), as I went on to find more info about Helen Dye and her husband James Veitch (namely censuses with his parents and siblings etc).

However, just wanted to ask you something.

On reply no. 39 listing the children - Helen Dey, Janet Day, Alexander Dey and another Alexander Dey, the mother's names are all showing "different" variations and the surname as Reid.

On the Death paperwork that you sent me, it lists Thomas's father as Alexander Dye and his mother as Magdalene Reid.  Therefore I am of the opinion that the different variations of the mother's name are all short for Magdalene.

Also I found two marriage references for the same date:  One for a Maud Reid marrying an Alexander Dey 13.03.1795 and one for a Maus Reid (same spouse and date of marriage).

I also found a baptism record for a Maysie Reid born 09.09.1774 and baptised on 11.09.1774 (Dunfermline).

What do you think?

Regards
Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Thursday 01 January 15 17:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Monica

Yes you are right.  Elizabeth married for a third time on 31st October 1892 to a Hugh Young in South Shields.

I will send you an email to your email address and list all the info I have from the furthest back coming forward, and perhaps you would be good enough to have a look and see if I've missed anything.

Hope you don't mind.
Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Thursday 01 January 15 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Monica

Happy New Year to you, hope your party was good.  We had quite a quiet one really, our boys were out clubbing, but me and hubby (being fully of colds), just chilled at home.

I've been on this morning and tried to check out some other info, and I've found on FS, three other children for Alexander Cruickshank and Anne Millar, as follows:

Agnes born 1800
Ann born 1802
Thomas born 1804

The details for Jean show her born in 1806 and a baptism date (as with the other siblings), however on her death details it shows her as dying in 1868 aged 58 - making her born in 1810.  I know the ages aren't always correct on death details, but I just hope we're not going down the wrong route.

Yes I did see the details of Elizabeth with her mother Mary and her brothers.  What do you think however of the spelling as "Sieg".

On my Ancestry tree I have now listed Margaret, Helen and Elizabeth ALL as Mary's children (especially as Thomas didn't marry Jean/Jane until 1854) and Elizabeth being the youngest was born c1849.

Can you just clarify - are we saying that Alexander born 1829 (10/3) and John born 1829 (11/3) TWINS, and also James born 1835 (23/8), are all also children of Thomas and Mary?  I seemed to remember that you mentioned that they may have died young.

Also, if Thomas married Jean/Jane AFTER he married Mary, then why would Thomas's details about his death say "Widower of Mary Gillespie" (with NO mention of Jean/Jane who would have been his "latter" wife).  A bit of a mystery.

If this is the case, I wonder if there are other children in between James in 1835 and then Margaret being born in 1842.

What do you think?

Regards
Karen

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Fife / Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please!
« on: Wednesday 31 December 14 19:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jen and Monica

WOW good work Jen, so Jean Cruickshanks (single) and her niece of the same name lived also at 22 Knabbie Street.  Must have been in another part of the house, to be shown separately.

Also if you go forward to the next house, it is the Inches family.  I have found out that Mary Gillespie Vietch went on to marry a William Inches.  I wonder if this was his family.  Too much of a coincidence not to be really.  (Am I living in hope LOL)?

All seems to be falling into place.  I just wish we could find out the situation with Mary and Jane/Jean - who Elizabeth's mother was out of the two, and when exactly that Mary died.  Seems strange that she is still showing as Thomas's husband at his death.  So not exactly sure where Jane fits in.

I can't thank you both enough.  You've spent ages on this with me and I do REALLY appreciate it.  I've been struggling with this family for years now, and haven't managed to find out any of the info you both have.

Hope you both have a FAB time tonight.  I wish you both a very Happy New Year!!!

Best wishes
Karen


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