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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Thursday 28 September 23 10:54 BST (UK)  »
I am going to go through the Charlesworth line to see if there is a connection , It will take some time as it goes back centuries  for the most part they lived in the same area .

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Thursday 28 September 23 08:47 BST (UK)  »
I agree with this connection . Have remembered that Frances age 15 was at James Wards house & his daughter Harriet was a dressmaker , this is the occupation Frances gives on the 1901 census age 25
Seems likely Harriet taught her .

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 20:26 BST (UK)  »
None of those names are my families side where she was Cousin.  My grandfather was John William Burke.  His father William Henry Burke.  His mother Ellen Maria Charlesworth

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Thanks.  This looks very possible. Cresswell where Eliza was born is in the area . I wonder why Frances is not with the family .I looked back to the census before & Frances is with James Ward who was born at Warsop gives Frances as niece she is 15 & a scholar
Still trying to find a connection with my g grandparents , surnames Burke & Charlesworth as they give Frances as cousin .
James Ward gives her as niece , maybe through his wife but seems she must have died as not on the census .

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 17:07 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for the information . I must try to get the connection with my family . It’s says cousin on the census l it could be cousin on my grandfathers fathers Burke family or his  mothers Charlesworth family , will start looking .

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you   I tried but can’t have done it correctly , in my 80 s now .

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Frances Allan b1866. Normanby
« on: Wednesday 27 September 23 15:14 BST (UK)  »
While looking at my families 1891 census for Shirebrook  Derbyshire I found My g grandfather William Henry Burke age 23. Wife Ellen Maria.  Son Hugh  John William ( my grandfather ) & George my g uncle  Then Frances Allan age 25 from Normanby.  Dressmaker. Cousin

Back to 1881 I found her on the census for Pleasley which is near Shirebrook  with James Ward age 68  son John 33 Daughter Harriet 36.   Then Frances Allen age 15 Niece Normanby Scholar .

I would like to know anything about Frances & where she fits into the family.  Hope someone can help
Many thanks Tineke

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Henry Nelson
« on: Tuesday 26 September 23 07:41 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for your reply. I did not know that.  Regards

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: George Henry Nelson
« on: Monday 25 September 23 20:57 BST (UK)  »
I think the family know about his life in Australia , & his wife & children The puzzle for me was where was he in 1939 of not with his parents & siblings All the other children are there along with parents .

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