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Kent / History of Sheringham Fishing Indutry
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Back on Rootschat after many years away. I am researching the history of the Sheringham fishing industry, especially during the 19th and early 20th centuries, and looking for details of the boats used. Also looking for information about where Sheringham fishermen moved to up and down the East Coast.
Thank you in advance
Blue Jacket.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / History of Sheringham Fishing Indutry
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Back on Rootschat after many years away. I am researching the history of the Sheringham fishing industry, especially during the 19th and early 20th centuries, and looking for details of the boats used. Also looking for information about where Sheringham fishermen moved to up and down the East Coast.
Thank you in advance
Blue Jacket.

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Lincolnshire / History of Sheringham Fishing Indutry
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 15:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi Back on Rootschat after many years away. I am researching the history of the Sheringham fishing industry, especially during the 19th and early 20th centuries, and looking for details of the boats used. Also looking for information about where Sheringham fishermen moved up and down the East Coast.
Thank you in advance
Blue Jacket. :)

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Norfolk / History of Sheringham Fishing Indutry
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 15:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Back on Rootschat after many years away. I am researching the history of the Sheringham fishing industry, especially during the 19th and early 20th centuries, and looking for details of the boats used. Also looking for information about where Sheringham fishermen moved up and down the East Coast.
Thank you in advance
Blue Jacket.

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Lincolnshire / Grimsby Coal Salt & Tanning Company
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 01:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.
    I am researching the fishing history of Sheringham, Norfolk. There was a branch of the Grimsby Coal Salt & Tanning Company in Beeston Road, Sheringham, which closed in the 1070's. Any information about the company HQ in Grimsby, such as the date the company was wound up, any scans of catalogues, in fact any information will be very much appreciated. All my research is given to Sheringham Museum for the use of future researchers.
Thank you in advance.
Stay safe.

Blue Jacket.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Sheringham Maritime & Fishing History
« on: Friday 02 March 12 16:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Michelle.
                 Thank you for your reply. The trawlers you mention were big steam (coal burners) trawlers that used to fish off Iceland and right up in the Arctic Sea North of Norway and sometimes they would even get over to Greenland. The boats could be away from Grimsby for anything up to a month at a time. It was a very hazardous occupation, the crews had to contend with freezing conditions, frost bite, ice, gales, salt water boils (very painful), lack of sleep. In the winter it was dark for weeks on end, it never got daylight. The fish caught were mostly cod, haddock and Halbut etc and some times some very big catches were made and then everyone was happy.

Here are some details for the trawlers you mention.

"GURTH". Official number 118941. Registered Grimsby 1905. Built of steel at Selby 1905. Length 123'.2. Breadth 21'.6. Depth in hold 11'.4.  Net tons 91. Gross tons 226. Horse Power 60. Screw propulsion. Steam.
Owner, United Steam Fishing Co Ltd, Grimsby. William Chessman, Tapley House, The Park, Grimsby.

Tha following are in the same format, but I have left
out the text for length, breadth, etc.

"CLIFTON" 123562. Grimsby 1906. Steel. Selby 1906. 126'.2. 22'.0. 11'.4. 125 net. 242 gross.  HP 63. Screw. Steam. Owner, Thomas C Moss, Fish Docks, Grimsby.

"PEKEN". 127823. gRIMSBY 1908. Steel. Selby 1907. 120'.0. 22'.0. 11'.4. 119 net. 228 gross.  HP 66. Screw. Steam. Owner, Henry L Taylor, Fish Dock, Grimsby.

"PEARL". 110920. grimsby 1899. Iron. Beverley 1899. 115'.7. 21'.0. 11'.5. 79 net. 198 gross. HP 60. Screw. Steam. Owner, Thomas C Moss, Fish Dock, Grimsby.

"CONWAY". 118919. Grimsby 1904. Steel. Selby 1904. 119'.3. 21'.5. 11'.5. 105 net. 228 gross. HP 58. Screw. Steam.  Owner, Thomas C Moss, Epping House, Eleanor Street. Grimsby.

Hopefully this has answered some of your questions, but if not please do not hesitate to ask again. I cannot guarantee to come up with the right answer every time, but I will try.

Best Wishes.
Blue Jacket.



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Lincolnshire / Re: Sheringham Maritime & Fishing History
« on: Thursday 01 March 12 14:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Michelle.
                  Thank you for your posting about Lotion Tar Bishop. and the interesting photographs
I have searched through all my files, documents and books, but can find no metion of his first name, he is always called Lotion Tar Bishop.  I have made a note and if in the future his first name is found I will post it on rootschat.

Regards.
Blue Jacket.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Sheringham Maritime & Fishing History
« on: Thursday 01 March 12 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.
    I apologise for the delay replying to you posting, have had some PC problems etc.
The document you mention was posted by another member of rootschat and as a result, I do not have a copy, unfortunately.
The Shannocks along with fishermen from many other East coast ports moved to Grimsby after it was developed as a fishing port in the latter half of the 1800S, starting around 1851. With the railway fish could be delivered to the big cities and towns in the North and the Midlands within 24 hours of landing. This opened up markets never dreamed of and as the demand for fish increased it out stripped the supply and prices increased. New fishing grounds such as the Silver Pits and Sole Pits were being found and exploited
It must have been like a gold rush and several houses in Sheringham were built on the proceeds.

Before Grimsby was developed the Sheringham fishermen used to range all over the North sea, fishing from Whitby and perhaps even further North right round to the English Channel as the seasons dictated. They may have even gone round the land Westard  Mackerel fishing.

I am afraid I have run on a bit, hope I havn't bored you. If I can be any help with the Shannocks etc please do not hesitate to ask.

Regards.
Blue Jacket.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Sheringham Maritime & Fishing History
« on: Sunday 07 August 11 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi.
    Thank you for the the very interesting information about the SUNMAN family from Sheringham. While they were in Sheringham the SUNMAN family were innkeepers and boat builders and Robert Sunman jnr built several luggers on Sheringham beach during the early early 1800's.
Robert SUNMAN married Elizabeth CHAMBERLAIN on 15th July 1819 at All Saints Church Upper Sheringham Lower Sheringham did not have a parish church until the beginning of the 20th century.
Elizabeth CHAMBERLAIN was born at Lower Sheringham 15th November 1798 and baptised at All Saints Church Upper Sheringham  23rd December 1798. Fathers name = Richard CHAMBERLAIN. Mothers name = Mary ???.
The following are from the Upper Sheringham Memorial Inscriptions by Walter Rye.
 Elijah Francis SUNMAN died 19th June 1850. aged 37.
George Willian SUNMAN died 29th November  1818.
Thomas Christmans SUNMAN died 14th April 180?. aged 7 years.
Wills Proved in the Consistory Court of Norwich 1819 - 1858.
1855 - SUNMAN, Elijah Frances, innkeeper of Sheringham. Folio #666, Whitty.
These are the fishing luggers I have found that were either built or owned by Robert SUNMAN jnr. Possibly there are more that have not been recorded. All were built on Sheringham Beach.
"ANNA MARY"  = 12 ton, 33ft, 3 masted lugger built at Sheringham 1839 by Robert SUNMAN jnr. Owned by Robert SUNMAN jnr, boat builder.
"CONFIDENCE" = 26 ton, 42ft, 3 masted lugger built at Sheringham 1841 by Robert SUNMAN jnr and owned by Robert SUNMAN jnr.
"NEW HENRY" = 11 ton, 30ft, 3masted lugger built at Sheringham 1839 by Robert SUNMAN jnr.
"REFUGE" = 14 tons, 33ft, 3 masted lugger built at Sheringham 1840 by Robert SUNMAN jnr.
"VICTORY" = 8 tons, 30ft, 3 masted lugger built at Sheringham 1840 by Robert SUNMAN jnr.
Robert SUNMAN must have had quite a large work force to be able to turn boats out as quickly as he did.
I hope this information has been of interest and help to you. If you think I can be any further help please do not hesitate to ask and I will see what I can dredge up from my records & files etc.

Regards. Blue Jacket.

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