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Worcestershire / Re: What is "Hill End" in Droitwich / Dodderhill ?
« on: Tuesday 29 November 11 21:04 GMT (UK)  »
I am decended from William Causier and Letitia Willis--they are my third Great Grandparents. I have 18 George Causier's in my data base. Give me more details and I will try to match you up :P ;D   
Sue K.

Hi, Bramcor!  How nice to hear from you!  Yes, George is a common name among my Causier's and, especially given the Hill End address, I'm sure yours is connected to mine some how.  I have 4 George Causier's in my database, but none who could be yours.  I suspect that yours is a grandson or great-grandson of my William by his first wife, Leticia Willis.  Since my line is by his second wife, I have collected only scattered data on Letitia's descendants: usually when I was trying to keep all the area's Causier's straight!  If you'd like more data, just let me know; I'm glad to share!
-Encinita

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Worcestershire / Re: What is "Hill End" in Droitwich / Dodderhill ?
« on: Tuesday 29 November 11 20:44 GMT (UK)  »
I ran across the same reference. Many of my family records list Hill End as follows:
1851 Census of Dodderhill Parish,  Worcestershire, Borough of  Droitwich Sub district of Claines. #391 FHL-flm 87,455,30
Hill End # 21
Causier, William head age 54 married laborer  born Dodderhill/Worcester
               Ann wife age 43 married born Dodderhill/Worcester
               James son age 21 single laborer born Dodderhill/Worcester
               Henry son age 19 single laborer  born in Dodderhill/Worcester
   Charles son age 14 single laborer born in Dodderhill/Worcester
                David son age 11 single laborer born in Stoke Prior/Worcester (note even children worked)
                Emanuel son age 8 scholar born in Droitwich/Worcester  ( this record had to be a mistake of the census takers. This should                 read Manwella a daughter age 8)
Bennet, Elizabeth  6 niece scholar   Inliberty, Worcester (Elizabeth was actually William Causiers Grand Niece- the daughter of Sarah Causier and Robert Bennett)
William is living next to his son, William Causier and brother Sacherveril Causier

Hill End might be a lane with lodging houses which were numbered. And Baptisms usually stated Dodderhill Paris

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841/1851 Census look-up PLEASE for MOORE
« on: Tuesday 29 November 11 19:12 GMT (UK)  »
Is Lydia the child of John Hughes and Lydia Cooper?  John is my 3rd Great Grandfather. Would love to connect--Thanks ::)

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Leeds neighborhoods?
« on: Monday 28 November 11 03:41 GMT (UK)  »
Wasn't Grice married to Emily Jane Stocks 1884 in Wakefield, Yorkshire? When did she die and what date did Grice marry Sarah Unknown?  Thank you

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Bilston
« on: Monday 28 November 11 03:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I am the third great granddaughter of Lydia Cooper and John Hughes. I was stumped on the name Crummet or Crompett, but Cooper explains things.  John and Lydia married July 23, 1832 in tipton, Staff. But there was a child, Matilda in 1830 in Dudley, Worcester. Was she the child of John Crumpett or John Hughes --I wonder. Never found John Hughes parents, but might be John and Mary of Bilston.

Here are my notes:
John Hughes was born 1806 in Bilston, Staffordshire.  He marries Lydia Crummet born 1801, in Brierley Hill, Worcester, on July 23, 1832 in Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Christening records were also found on the Family History Library-International Genealogical Index computer records for this family.
Children of Lydia and John:
Matilda, 1 Feb. 1830 ( Matilda was born before their legal marriage in 1832)
Thomas, 10 Mar. 1833
Henry, 7 Sep. 1834
Catherine, 23 July, 1837.


John and Lydia have two children who have expired by 1841.  They were Matilda born 1830 and Thomas born 1833 in Dudley, Worcester, England

The 1841 England Census
Tipton, Staffordshire
John Hughes, blacksmith of Staffordshire, England
Lydia wife of Staffordshire, England (note: it is not known why Staffordshire was reported here instead of Worcester)
Henry 6 son of Staffordshire, England (note: it is not know why Staffordshire was reported here instead of Worcester)
Catherine 3 daughter of Staffordshire, England
John 1 son   of Staffordshire, England

1851 England Census
Tipton, St. Paul, Staffordshire
# 141 on Wood St.
John Hughes, blacksmith age 46 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia wife age 48
Henry son age 15 of Staffordshire, England (note: not known why Staffordshire was reported here instead of Worcester)
Catherine daughter age 13 of Staffordshire, England
John son age 11 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia daughter 9 of Staffordshire, England
Neomi daughter 4 of Staffordshire, England

In 1858 daughter, Catherine married Charles Causier. They move a short distance away in Sedgely, Staffordshire.  Their son, Henry also marries in this year to Sarah Jane Nicklin and they make their home in Worcester.

John Hughes Senior is not found in the 1861 Census, nor is he listed in the England death index.  It is likely however, that he has passed away because his wife Lydia states that she is a widow in 1861.  Daughter, Catherine and her husband, Charles Causier are now living in Sedgely, Staffordshire

1861 England Census
Tipton, St. Paul, Staffordshire
Lydia Hughes widow born 1801 in Brierley Hill, Worcestershire
John son born 1841 in Tipton, Staffordshire
Lydia daughter born 1844 in Tipton, Staffordshire
Naomi daughter born 1847 in Tipton, Staffordshire

Mrs. Lydia Hughes the widow dies in 1862 in Dudley, Staffordshire.

1871  Daughter, Catherine and her husband are now living in Castleford, Yorkshire--remaining in this place until 1881, when they moved to America, settling in Bay View, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Son, Henry and his wife Sarah remain in Worcester with their family.

Daughter, Naomi married Joshua Austin in 1874, Dudley, Staffordshire.  They have three children but  it is believed that two died young.


John Hughes parents might be John and Mary of Bilston, Staffordshire, England but not sure

Research of Sue Rynders Kopec 

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I am a Hughes, of a line of hugheses from Wood Street, Tipton.

Can I help at all?

I have a great uncle Jack (John?) Hughes, born in Wood Street.

My dad:  Peter Hughes
Grandad:  William Hughes
Gr. Grandad:  Stephen Hughes

Hi, I am the 2nd Great Granddaughter of Catherine Hughes married to Charles Causier

If you think you are related, please contact me
Catherine Hughes was born May 15, 1837 in Tipton, Staffordshire, England
BAPTISM-CHRISTENING: Catherine was baptized July 23, 1837, at St. Thomas Parish, in Dudley, Worcester, England. (Dudley parish is within the boundaries of Staffordshire, but ecclesiastically Dudley Parish is part of Worcester.  Two churches in Dudley are St. Thomas and St. Edmond.  They were combined by 1831 to St. Thomas.  Hence, Catherine was born in Stafford, but Christened in Worcester.     Parish of birth is listed as Tipton, Staffordshire, England. (FHL-ref.1342103 pg.18)

Christening records were also located for this Hughes family on the Family History Library-International Genealogical Index computer records.
Children of Lydia and John Hughes:
Matilda, 1 Feb. 1830
Thomas, 10 Mar. 1833
Henry, 7 Sep. 1834
Catherine, 23 July, 1837

The following census records state that Catharine Hughes was born in Staffordshire, England.  She was baptised in Dudley, Worcester, which was within the boundaries of Staffordshire, England.  However, when Catherine's daughter, Anna Matilda Causier, Carr died in 1940 California, USA, her death certificate stated that her mother: Catherine Hughes was born in Bangor Hall, Wales!  Nobody seems to know where this bit of information came from.

CATHERINE IN THE HOME OF HER PARENTS-JOHN HUGHES AND LYDIA
1841 England Census
Tipton, Staffordshire, England FHL 474,616 #9
Hughes, John, blacksmith of Staffordshire/England
               Lydia his wife of Staffordshire/England
               Henry son age 6 of Staffordshire/England
               Catherine daughter age 3 of Staffordshire/England
               John son age 1 of Staffordshire/England

CATHERINE IN THE HOME OF HER PARENTS-JOHN HUGHES AND LYDIA
1851 England Census
Tipton, St. Paul, Staffordshire
# 141 on Wood St.
John Hughes, blacksmith age 46 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia wife age 48
Henry son age 15 of Staffordshire, England
Catherine daughter age 13 of Staffordshire, England
John son age 11 of Staffordshire, England
Lydia daughter 9 of Staffordshire, England
Neomi daughter 4 of Staffordshire, England


I have more

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These are my notes: Don't know where you are getting the name Elizabeth Carr- as his wife is listed as Jane
1851 England Census Parish of Methley, Yorkshire, England
John Carr age 37 born Methley, Yorkshire  Coal Miner
Jane wife age 36 born Cliforth, Yorkshire
William son age 10 born Seacroft, Yorkshire
Joseph son age 8 born Crossgats, Yorkshire
Elizabeth daughter age 6 born Crossgats, Yorkshire
Ann daughter age 4 born Bottomboat, Yorkshire
Hestser daughter age 1 born Crossgates, Yorkshire

1861 England Census Parish of Castleford, Yorkshire Dist. 16 Reg. Dist. of Pontefract
John Carr age 47 head born Methley, Yorkshire  Coal Miner
Jane wife age 44 born Cliforth, Yorkshire
Wiliam son age 20 born Sea Croft, Yorkshire  Coal Miner
Joseph son age 18 born Barwick, Yorkshire  Glass bottle maker
Easter daughter age 11 born Sea Croft, Yorkshire Glass paint cutter
 
1871 England Census Parish of Whitwood, Ecclesiastical Parish of Whitwood Mere All Saints
Town: Whitwood Mere, County Yorkshire Reg. Dist. Pontefract Sub. Dist. Castleford
Methley rd house 44.
William Carr head  30 born SeaCroft, Yorkshire   Coal Miner
Jane wife 30 born Emsall
John Henry son 8 born Castleford, Yorkshire  Scholar
Grice Ethell son 6 born Castleford, Yorkshire  Scholar
Mary Nedra daughter 3 born Castleford, Yorkshire
George Herbert son  1 born Whitwood Mere, Yorkshire
John Carr father 67 born Methley, Yorkshire  Coal Miner
Jane Carr mother 53 born Clifford, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Carr sister single 26 born Bartwick in Elmiet, Yorkshire   Seamstress
Esther Kilson sister married 21 born SeaCroft, Yorkshire  Laborers wife
Elizabeth Ann Carr Niece age 3 born Whitwood Mere, Yorkshire 
Jane Ann Kilson Niece age 2 born Terry Bridge, Yorkshire   

1881 England Census Whitwood, Yorkshire
8 Rhodes St.
William Carr 40 born Seacroft, Yorkshire. Coal miner.
Jane wife,  40 born  Emstall, Yorkshire
Grice Ethell son, 16 born Castleford
Annie daughter 9 born Whitwood, York in school
Bertha daughter 8 born Whitwood, Yorkshire in school
Sarah E. daughter 5 born Featherstone
William son 4 born Normanton, Yorkshire.




Might as well have the earliest census that John H Carr appears on ..

1871 RG10/4637 Folio 28 Page 11 - Castleford, Whitwood Mere,

William Carr 30  Head Coal Miner Seacroft
Elizabeth Carr 26  Wife
Grice Ethell Carr 6 
John Henry Carr 8  Castleford
Mary Medora Carr 3 
George Herbert Carr 1  Whitwood Mere

John Carr 67 Father Coal Miner Melkley
Jane Carr 53  Mother born Clifford
Jane Carr 30  Sister

Elizabeth Ann Carr 3  Niece

Jane Ann Carr Kitson 2  Niece
Esther Kitson 21  Sister


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John and Annie left lIverpool Sept. 8, 1907, arrived America 15 Sept. 1907. They went back to Bay View, Milwaukee, Wisconsin to join their son, Charles who arrived from England in 1905. Charles married his cousin Charlotte Field in Bay View.  They quickly move to White Pine, Nevada. This family moves and visits often from Wisconsin and Nevada and then Utah and then California, USA


Dear "Cousin",

Having just 'found' 'Uncle John's' wife to be Ann Matilda Causier - I now see where you fit in to my family tree (I belong to Annie Carr 1871).  It also explains why when I was clearing out my Great Aunt's posessions after she died 9in the 80's) I found a beautiful & huge brouchure for Forest Lawn Cemetery (looking like it was from around the 1930/40's).  Although I must say that the photo I have of "John & Annie" taken "in another corner of our living room" did not lead me to expect them to be in America - just goes to show - they must have gone back after 1901.  In fact I thought I'd found a further record of John coming back to England later on - I'll have another look if you like

Get in touch

Carole

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I am the 2nd Great Granddaughter of Charles Causier and Catharine Hughes. Conducting research on this line since the 1970's.  I met another researcher - SHESEEKS who happens to be the 2nd Great Granddaughter of Charles and Catharine too.  It was very nice for all who provided such indepth material to her.  I already had the information, but it was good to cross reference my old notes again. Amazing all the material that is now found on line, where as years ago, we waited for films to arrive before we could even hope to locate anything.  And the old microfilm and filch machines were deplorable at best. 

There is a Causier group on Facebook and all are welcome to join. We try to work together, with one goal--UNITE   There are wonderful pictures posted as well.


THANKS AGAIN

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