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I think the coverage of more recent dates (late 20th century onwards) in the BNA is sparse.

There used to be a free online digitised archive of the Glasgow Herald but not sure how recent it was, and I haven't found it just now.


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Recently had some information from a cousin and a researcher in Ardersier, Inverness suggesting that Donald, born 1821, married a Jane Clark 28 Mar 1848 Petty, Inverness, Scotland and again 12 Apr 1848 Ardersier, Inverness, Scotland.
No, they didn't get married twice. Before the marriage they lived in different parishes, so the banns had to be called in both parishes, so what you have is two records of the same event.

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I have the marriage documents from Scotland's People but no parents listed.
It's rare for parents' names to be recorded in the church records of marriages. Once civil registration started in 1855 you do get the parents' names on a marriage certificate, including (unlike England, Wales and Ireland) the mothers' maiden surnames.


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Buteshire / Re: Isabella Blcak
« on: Yesterday at 17:30 »
John mentioned on the headstone I couldnt find , but I have John born 1829 and mentioned in the 1841 census with his parents Helen and Michael Finlay , but he is not mentioned in the 1851 or 1861 census with his family and couldnt find a death for him either !!

John Findlay her son , died 8.4.1863 aged 14
(John Findlay dob 12/10/1829 Irvine)

If John was born in 1829 he was a lot older than 14 by 1863. I wondered if 1863 was a mistranscription of 1843, which would fit age-wise and also tallies with the census information you quoted.

This reference
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Death FINDLAY
JOHN
1861
M
14
597/ 13/ 8
KILMARNOCK
AYR
is from the census index, not from the deaths index. This child is the stepson of John Harvie, one of four children of Alexander Findlay and Elizabeth Cuthbertson, who were married in Kilmarnock in 1840.

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Kent / Is St Lawrence in Ramsgate?
« on: Friday 10 May 24 10:48 BST (UK)  »
I'm suffering from confusing ecclesiastical geography, and I hope someone can help me sort it out, please.

Elizabeth Burgess or Anderson, widow of Duncan Anderson, died in Perth (the original one, not its namesake in Western Australia) in 1884 aged 75, parents Peter Burgess and Mary Scobie.

The Censuses all say that she was born in England; the 1881 says she was born in Ramsgate, Kent.

FindMyPast has an index listing of the baptism of Elizabeth, daughter of Peter and Mary Burgess, at St Lawrence, Kent on 15 June 1806. In its usual helpful way FindMyPast does not say where in Kent St Lawrence is.

However the index listing on FindMyPast is copied from FS, which says it is St Laurence in Thanet. It lists the record three times, one of which quotes the source as Canterbury parish registers.

So is Ramsgate in St Laurence, or is St Laurence in Ramsgate, or is this the wrong Elizabeth? And is/are Ramsgate and/or St Lau/wrence and/or Thanet in Canterbury? (I have gathered that Thanet includes more of Kent than just the former Isle of Thanet, and that Ramsgate is in Thanet.)

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Lanarkshire / Re: Maternity hospital
« on: Friday 10 May 24 09:30 BST (UK)  »
I'm not sure that's necessarily right - some nursing homes dealt with other things than maternity. For example a lot of nursing homes cared for people nearing the end of their life.

There was a large nursing home in Dundee called Fernbrae, which became a private hospital and only closed down five years ago http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t5t/. I had my tonsils out in Fernbrae when I was about two, and I remember hearing about various patients who had gone in there for one thing or another.

Also recall visiting an ancient great-aunt in a nursing home in Edinburgh in the 1950s. She had had a cataract operation and had to lie flat on her back for a fortnight afterwards.


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Lanarkshire / Re: Maternity hospital
« on: Thursday 09 May 24 20:13 BST (UK)  »
In my tree I have 28 people who were born at 12 Claremont Terrace, Glasgow between 1912 and 1966. One of them records the address as Park Nursing Home, 12 Claremont Terrace.

Also 7 born at 6 Claremont Terrace between 1921 and 1959 and 5 at 3 Claremont Terrace between 1930 and 1938.

The 1935 Valuation Roll lists nursing homes at Nos 1 (Proprietor Henrietta Gunn), 4 (Elizabeth Burns), 6 (Annie L Macpherson), and 12 (Elizabeth M Allan)

No 3 isn't listed at all in 1935, but it is listed as a nursing home in 1930, proprietor Elizabeth Burns.

So it looks as if you have four to choose from.

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Looks as if they have reinvented it as Glenlivet Cottages http://www.glenlivetcottages.co.uk/

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Lanarkshire / Re: Unregistered Births
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 06:13 BST (UK)  »
Would the birth of a child born in 1853, probably Coatbridge, to an unmarried woman be registered?
Possibly not.

There might be some mention in the minutes of the Kirk Session, if they have survived. I looked through the minutes of Old Monkland Kirk Session but did not find anything about your Marion Graham, but if she was a member of the Relief Church it probably wouldn't be in the parish kirk session records anyway.

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It looks like Minmore house is now a hotel so I think we will plan to spend a night there when we visit!
It was a hotel until 2009, but, as the description on the photograph says, it no longer is.

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