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Lanarkshire / Re: c18th BRYCE's in Cambusnethan
« on: Wednesday 19 April 23 09:26 BST (UK) »
Greetings from Melbourne Australia. Betty Chalmers had two husbands. Peter Brown and John Bryce. Margaret
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Lanarkshire / Re: c18th BRYCE's in Cambusnethan
« on: Wednesday 19 April 23 01:18 BST (UK) »
Came across this post whilst searching for information about my Dalry families. I am interested in knowing more about the Bryce family. I am descended from Martha Brown born Dalry 3 Jun 1827. Her parents were Betty Chalmers and Peter Brown, married in Dalry 11 May 1822. We have been unable to find a death record for Betty Chalmers/Bryce/Brown. Martha Brown married David Reid, ironstone miner, in Dalry 1847. They emigrated to the Victorian goldfields, Australia with two daughters Elizabeth (Betsy) Reid and Jane Mary Reid in 1854 where David worked as a goldminer. Another daughter Margaret Catherine Rei was born in Ballarat Australia in 1856.
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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: Charlotte HARRIS b c 1813 Stalbridge Dorset
« on: Tuesday 01 October 19 06:57 BST (UK) »
Hi. Just entering this thread as it came up in a search. My immediate Harris family (William Charles Harris and Elizabeth Brown) from Aldgate, London emigrated to Australia (first Tasmania, then Melbourne) in 1884.
I have 6 small but reliable DNA matches who have a Harris family in Stalbridge, Dorset, including one that includes Mark Light Harris (Samuel Harris and Sarah Light) in the tree. The six are at first glance unrelated families, but I am looking for a link to my London family by building a research tree.
One 4th cousin match that shares a match with a known member of my Harris family includes: Samuel Harris (1748-1828) married Jenny Duffet (1746-1816), their daughter Alice Harris (1779-1879) married John Lilly Ralph (1774-1850). I have not yet come across a Charlotte.
Love to correpond with any of the posters here if they think our families may be linked. So many Harris in Stalbridge and London!!
Margaret Stebbing, Melbourne, Australia.
I have 6 small but reliable DNA matches who have a Harris family in Stalbridge, Dorset, including one that includes Mark Light Harris (Samuel Harris and Sarah Light) in the tree. The six are at first glance unrelated families, but I am looking for a link to my London family by building a research tree.
One 4th cousin match that shares a match with a known member of my Harris family includes: Samuel Harris (1748-1828) married Jenny Duffet (1746-1816), their daughter Alice Harris (1779-1879) married John Lilly Ralph (1774-1850). I have not yet come across a Charlotte.
Love to correpond with any of the posters here if they think our families may be linked. So many Harris in Stalbridge and London!!
Margaret Stebbing, Melbourne, Australia.
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Spanish Wrecks on Aberdeenshire Coast
« on: Saturday 03 March 18 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Which company did you test with that is giving you this Iberian, and what is the percentage?
Ethnicity Estimate: Primarily Great Britain. 6% Scandinavian, 2% Iberian Peninsula 2% Europe West 1% Finland.
I tested with Ancestry and uploaded to both FTDNA and GEDMatch. Yes the different companies use different algorithms and any matching and heritage results are just estimates. In the end I am pleased to make contacts and find further evidence to support the detail in my family tree. Margaret
Ethnicity Estimate: Primarily Great Britain. 6% Scandinavian, 2% Iberian Peninsula 2% Europe West 1% Finland.
I tested with Ancestry and uploaded to both FTDNA and GEDMatch. Yes the different companies use different algorithms and any matching and heritage results are just estimates. In the end I am pleased to make contacts and find further evidence to support the detail in my family tree. Margaret
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Spanish Wrecks on Aberdeenshire Coast
« on: Saturday 03 March 18 07:54 GMT (UK) »
To the previous posters, you are correct. I am not offended by confirmation of the occupational names. However, none of that confirms or excludes the possibility of the arrival in Peterhead of seamen of Iberian extraction to add to the long term families there. My % of genetic heritage from Iberian peninuslar has to come from some kind of interaction across the waters. Our Cordiners in Peterhead were leather shoe makers and also fishermen, and they originated in the fishing village Boddam. In Scottish tradition there is a naming pattern that keeps names revolving through families across the generations. It is helpful when doing genealogy research because once you know the given name of the first daughter you also can reliably guess the name of the maternal grandmother.Sophia is a very unusual name for families in Peterhead, and as far as I can see reserved only for the fishing families.
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Spanish Wrecks on Aberdeenshire Coast
« on: Friday 02 March 18 23:19 GMT (UK) »
I like that the history of my family is so much more complex than my childhood history books would suggest. I also like that there are other family historians who can see beyond the census data to understand the family members in their place. In school in Australia we learned little of this - thinking of our family heritage as mono cultural. My Peterhead families have ended up all over he world, and this is not surprising given their long association with trading and the ancient sea routes, and the cultures that shaped them. SO how does a Scottish lassie in Peterhead get to have a name like Sophia Cordiner? Surely there is some truth in those romantic rumours. I am currently reading an excellent book - The Edge of the World: How the North Sea made us what we are, author Michael Pye. When you think of the world as a sea with little bits of land in it rather than the other way around, it changes your perspective on what was possible over time.
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Spanish Wrecks on Aberdeenshire Coast
« on: Thursday 01 March 18 22:23 GMT (UK) »
There is also a story about the origins of the Scottish people that says they were never English, migrated from the Caucuses and the Mediterranean and Iberian Peninsula, the pIllars of Hercules (straits of Gilbralta) and Ireland to Scotland from there. Now where is that message link?
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Spanish Wrecks on Aberdeenshire Coast
« on: Thursday 01 March 18 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Yes. thanks Harry. DNA analysis has revealed more questions than it answered for me. SO many DNA connections that are difficult to explain. I have matches with entirely Norwegian born people in the tree - I guess a family of sailors from North East Scotland have connections in many ports. THe stories of the Spanish Armada taking the long way home abound. is there any truth in that?
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Spanish Wrecks on Aberdeenshire Coast
« on: Wednesday 28 February 18 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Adrian
I have the names Sellar, Stephen and Cordiner in the Bruce/King/Butters branch of my tree in Peterhead/Boddam.
The Stephen and Cordiner men were fishermen in Boddam, but the Peterhead men who were not seamen were shoemakers and leather workers. I am working with a close DNA match to connect my family tree to hers which includes many Cordiner families. I understand the name Sellar derives from saddler. In my main line, my 5th g grandmother Jean Sellar b. 1753 in Peterhead, married Alexander Bruce b. 1751 Peterhead, a shoemaker. The Bruce and King family included many seamen and also merchants with links to many countries.
I am also intrigued to find I have distant DNA matches that include people born in and in some cases still living in the Portugese mainland and Azores in their trees, in three cases the family remain in Portugal/Azores, in other cases they are emigrants to USA and Nova Scotia. There are 8 of these matches altogether and I was surprised by that. I am learning that a seaport like Peterhead attracts seafarers from all over, but this DNA connection may reflect the result of the inclusion of the Portugese and Spanish sailors in the gene pool of Peterhead and Boddam..
I am about 3/4 Scottish descent and live in Australia. My 2x g grandfather Alexander Butters emigrated to Australia from Peterhead in 1854, we believe he deserted from the Merchant Navy to go to the goldfields. My Ancestry ethnicity estimate has given me 6% Scandinavian and 2% Iberian Peninsular. I have Rh negative blood. All this makes a connection to Spanish and Portugese seamen quite possible.
My family tree is still evolving on Ancestry
Harris/Wells Family Tree
cheers
Margaret Stebbing, Melbourne, Australia
I have the names Sellar, Stephen and Cordiner in the Bruce/King/Butters branch of my tree in Peterhead/Boddam.
The Stephen and Cordiner men were fishermen in Boddam, but the Peterhead men who were not seamen were shoemakers and leather workers. I am working with a close DNA match to connect my family tree to hers which includes many Cordiner families. I understand the name Sellar derives from saddler. In my main line, my 5th g grandmother Jean Sellar b. 1753 in Peterhead, married Alexander Bruce b. 1751 Peterhead, a shoemaker. The Bruce and King family included many seamen and also merchants with links to many countries.
I am also intrigued to find I have distant DNA matches that include people born in and in some cases still living in the Portugese mainland and Azores in their trees, in three cases the family remain in Portugal/Azores, in other cases they are emigrants to USA and Nova Scotia. There are 8 of these matches altogether and I was surprised by that. I am learning that a seaport like Peterhead attracts seafarers from all over, but this DNA connection may reflect the result of the inclusion of the Portugese and Spanish sailors in the gene pool of Peterhead and Boddam..
I am about 3/4 Scottish descent and live in Australia. My 2x g grandfather Alexander Butters emigrated to Australia from Peterhead in 1854, we believe he deserted from the Merchant Navy to go to the goldfields. My Ancestry ethnicity estimate has given me 6% Scandinavian and 2% Iberian Peninsular. I have Rh negative blood. All this makes a connection to Spanish and Portugese seamen quite possible.
My family tree is still evolving on Ancestry
Harris/Wells Family Tree
cheers
Margaret Stebbing, Melbourne, Australia