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Aberdeenshire / Re: King and Butters in Peterhead
« on: Friday 22 December 17 00:06 GMT (UK)  »
I have not found a death notice for Joan Butter born 1849.  She was baptised and the record states "born posthumously" and this fits with the disappearance of her father (Master seaman) from the records - maybe died at sea or a foreign port?   Witness to the baptism was Benjamin King - I believe Barbara's brother.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: King and Butters in Peterhead
« on: Wednesday 15 November 17 22:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the detailed information from the Cemetery, this certainly include family members, and is the correct Alexander King.  I had found a scanned document for burial for Barbara King or Butters 14 Aug 1855 in plot 34 at the same cemetery, which I assumed was our Barbara.  It is possible there was no room for Barbara in this plot in 1855, although further burials were possible later.  This gives me some leads to find her family.

And also thanks for the hint re additional information on baptism records.
thanks Margaret

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Aberdeenshire / Re: King and Butters in Peterhead
« on: Wednesday 15 November 17 21:55 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the lookups. Yes we have the census data mentioned and death registry notice for Barbara King/Butters. We have also found some information on family trees - many of those on Ancestry belong to myself and other local family.  We have followed the later families to Australia, Canada and USA.  I was hoping someone in Aberdeenshire would be able to find a link to Barbara's King family other than the brother shoemaker in Peterhead.  Other posts have mentioned Alexander King watchmaker/silversmith and Charlie King Peterhead merchant but we have not been able to link her to them.  We have also been unable to find the correct birth and death for her husband John Butters, seaman.  There is a Masters ticket issued in 1855 with a likely birth date, but he and Barbara apparently had  a daughter "born posthumously" in 1849.  So many Butters in Scotland and perhaps Ireland?
thanks
Margaret

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Aberdeenshire / King and Butters in Peterhead
« on: Wednesday 15 November 17 13:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone
I am researching our family from Peterhead and would love to hear from anyone with similar family names.  My gggrandfather Alexander Butters arrived in Australia in 1854 at the time of the gold rushes and we believe he is the one with a short prison record for desertion from the UK Merchant Navy in Melbourne.  His death certificate states born Aberdeenshire abt 1830, gives mother: Barbara King  father: John Butters Sea Captain.  We have researched the family tree, and found DNA matches that fit,  but unable to place Barbara King in her family apart from her probable father Alexander King - shoemaker in Peterhead.
Any leads would be helpful. Thanks Margaret.

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Australia / Re: Douglas Robson born 1835
« on: Saturday 29 July 17 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi
1858 was a popular time for seamen to desert ships in Melbourne in particular.  if you look on the Victorian site PROV you may find him as a deserter wanted or imprisoned in Melbourne.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Robert Herbertson born circa 1804
« on: Friday 23 June 17 00:34 BST (UK)  »
I have in my fledgling tree the following
Janet Herbertson King b. Peterhead 1844.  Marriage and Death not found yet.

daughter of
Benjamin King (silversmith and clockmaker) b. Peterhead 1813 death not found yet. married Helen Connell (? b. Glasgow 1817, death not found yet)

It is known Benjamin King worked from Glasgow and returned to live in Peterhead for a time for family reasons - four of their seven children were born in Peterhead.

see fledgling family tree
Harris/Wells Family tree public on Ancestry

Margaret Stebbing, Melbourne Australia

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London and Middlesex / Re: missing marraige Fulham c1879
« on: Friday 06 January 17 05:04 GMT (UK)  »
One could posit that a chimney sweep was a bit like today's plumbers. Lots of opportunities to be entertained by ladies. ??
In practice though women of that class had a hard time bearing children.
cheers
Margaret

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London and Middlesex / Re: missing marraige Fulham c1879
« on: Friday 06 January 17 02:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all that help and research
A common name like Harris gives a lot of headaches once you go beyond the family memory, and there were a lot of chimney sweeps.
Yes we are certain now that Charles William was a half sibling.
We are settled on a birth in Sept 1843 and baptism March 1844 for our William Charles who married Elizabeth. The baptism mentions mother Sophia and stepmother Rebecca.
We have the benefit of a copy of his actual death and burial certificates in Australia in 1908. His death certificate notes mother Rebecca, His burial certificate notes mother Sophia, and that confused us for a bit.  We know this is the right William Charles because he is mentioned as widower on marriage certificate and has the right bunch of children on migration.
Thanks for your suggestion on the other marriage for William 1822 , will try that out.
The 1851 census record is problematic. The dates do not add up. We had thought this more likely a record for William 1822. There were no children named Eliza or Emily on the migration record.
thanks again
Margaret

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London and Middlesex / Re: missing marraige Fulham c1879
« on: Saturday 24 December 16 03:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Did you ever resolve your quest for Charles William Harris?
I found this post when searching for info on my family Harris - London chimney sweeps we believe.  We have been looking for a "Maria".  Investigating. My Ancestry tree is Harris/Wells.
William Harris master chimney sweep (1822-1872) we believe married three times.  William Charles Harris (b. Aldgate 1843-d. Melbourne, Australia 1908) married Elizabeth Brown and they migrated to Australia in  1884 with their (then) 7 children. Love to hear if you can shed more light on this. Margaret

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