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I had also heard he was from Castlewellan

Found this on a local Facebook group

I also remember reading somewhere that he (James) was a Cooper in Mooneys bar in Castlewellan

Hi Daisy,

Thank you!! This is brilliant.I’ve never been able to find this family in 1861.I have 5 names and ages matching. This also confirms that the family come from Drumaroad, Co Down and not Drumrud Co Mayo.
This now gives me an area to focus on. Thanks again.I really appreciate this!!

There is a brilliant website for CoDown listing things from chruch records, public records, land records and newspapers

https://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/D/Davy.htm

In terms of finding a wedding if it occured in Co Down - Drumaroad parish records start in 1853 unfortunately - https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0405

The parish was in existence long before this - just no records exist unfortunately

For those that don't know - Bells High is near Downpatrick (Between Downpatrick and Crossgar).

What branch of the family are from Bells Hill?



 

Hi all

This relates to my other thread (https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=842674.0)

Can anyone make out the name of the daughter than has been scored out on Ann McCartans death cert?

Here is the full page for anyone that wants to see it - https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06228/4782316.pdf

Hi Everyone

Looking for some help here - as have already gone on one wild goose chase and had the wrong branch of the McCartan family...

I have a John McCartan married Ellen Polin in 1904 (Marriage - https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10188/5707127.pdf)

Here is Ellen and the Children in 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Mullartown/Glasdrumman/244490/

So all i know for sure is the John is from Glassdrumman, is a farmer and his father Arthur is dead, and that Ellen and John aren't together on the night of the census.

The above bits i am sure of, but not sure of what i have found since then...

I started searching the 1901 census for John and found
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Mullarton/Glasdrumman/1235249/ but initially ruled him but the more i look at the the more it seems right...

In 1911 - there is a John Living alone aged 64, but now married - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Mullartown/Glasdrumman/244494/, so this fits with Ellen not living with her husband (Although they do have another child in 1912).

Looking into this a bit a more - traced the land via valuation revision books  (plot 41, Glasdrumman), and it passes from an Arthur, to Ann in 1885, and then to John in 1888..so this all fits... (Have attached the page of these books)

Arthur dies on 15 Sept 1883 with daughter Eliza McGreavy Present (Eliza married Richard McGreavy and i am able to trace this family)

Ann, of Glasdrumman dies in 1887, son John present at death (Place listed as Brockagh...or similar - have attached the death cert to see if anyone can make it out? - it appears as if a daughter was initially listed and then scored out - and i can't make her name out - Mary

Ellen dies aged 44 in 1915 and John dies aged 73, in 1917 as as widow.

So am i trying to make things fit, or does this sound right?

Anyone able to help shed anymore light on this.

If the above is right - Arthur has at least 2 children - Eliza and John and his wife is Ann (possibly Higgins?? - a search of Ros Davies, shows a John born to Arthur McCartan and Ann Higgins). Anyone able to help find any more children, or Arthur & Ann's wedding?