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Armed Forces / Re: 85th Regiment in Fulwood 1851 census
« on: Monday 11 April 22 02:17 BST (UK)  »
ShaunJ,
Thank you for your answer.  I will still have to did  around.  They were definitely deceased prior to 1866, when their daughter was sent to live with an uncle in Australia.  On her shipping list, she is listed as coming from Holytown in Lanarkshire, so possible family there. So the search will continue in Scotland for now.  Thanks again. :)

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Lanarkshire / Re: McAloon Family in 1861 Census - Old Monkland areas -
« on: Thursday 03 March 22 06:32 GMT (UK)  »
I think John Snr had a sister living nearby in Scotland, Ann McAloon wife of a Michael
Trower.

This is Ann and her family in 1851 www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a15008ef4040b9d6e0a6cc1/anne-trower-1851-lanarkshire-old-monkland-1816-?locale=en

Michael and Ann also had an 1855 baby which will let you confirm details the same way as John and Isabella:

John Trower born on 5 April 1855 Old Monkland,Lanark,Scotland

In later years, enquiries relating to their daughter Unity Trower in respect of confirmation of abode in Ireland years earlier included the details below:

Thank you Monica, I did not know about a possible sister, so this will also be a check up for me.  It's funny that Ann and Michael had a daughter called Unity, because my Nana was Unity McAloon, daughter of James McAloon and Catherine McMorrow - so a connect could be found. 
Thank you I will keep trying.

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Lanarkshire / Re: McAloon Family in 1861 Census - Old Monkland areas -
« on: Thursday 03 March 22 06:26 GMT (UK)  »
If you can find them in the Scottish 1861 census, it should, unlike the others, tell you at least a county of birth in Ireland. The other possibility is that if they had a child born in Scotland in 1855, that year (and only that year) gives the ages of the parents and their parish(es) of birth on the birth certificate.

If you know they had any brothers or sisters in Scotland, you could also try to find the same for them, which would give you an indication of where the family had been based in Ireland.

Thank you for that information about birth's in 1855.  One of the children, Patrick, I think was born in November of 1855.  I will try and chase this up.
Regards Karen

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Lanarkshire / Re: McAloon Family in 1861 Census - Old Monkland areas -
« on: Thursday 03 March 22 06:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Karen,

I had a quick look at this with maybe partial success, I might have found the family but not the county in Ireland. My thinking was if the family was in Old Monkland in 1851 and 1871 then there was a good chance of a difference in surname transcribing or indexing in 1861.

So searching on SP for surnames beginning with M you could maybe have a look for this census entry and see what you think? Looks like somebody was having an off day.

652/2 4/ 20
RD Old Monkland (Middle District)
Bank Street Ingles Land
John MONDAY 41 Furnace Filler
Bell 40
John 18
James 14
Ann 11
Marget 8
Patrick 5
Thomas 3

There are also few viewable trees on Ancestry for the family if you have a sub to that? All seem to give Donegal as John's county of birth but I don't know what record that info has come from.

Hope this helps a bit
Duncan

Duncan Thank you, This looks very similar to my family.  And I am aware of mis-spelling and transcriptions of names,  I would love to see the original record, to see if the name was indeed misspelled.
As for the Donegal, the McAloon name appears in Donegal as McLoone and in the records that were available in 1856-1866 or there abouts there were only about 54 families with the name of McLoone.  There are also McAloon names in Fermanagh, just across the border, but as of yet not touched on them, as I was hoping to find at least a county in Ireland, to start with.
Thank you I will keep looking. 
Regards Karen

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Lanarkshire / Re: Looking for birth of Mary and Henry Cairney
« on: Wednesday 02 March 22 06:35 GMT (UK)  »
I'm curious to know which John McAloon did she marry?  I am a descendant of the McAloons from Coatbridge and Old Monkland areas, but didn't know about this marriage.

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Lanarkshire / Re: McAloon Family in 1861 Census - Old Monkland areas -
« on: Wednesday 02 March 22 06:07 GMT (UK)  »
Wife Isabella Martin b.1816 Ireland and John McAloon b.1816 Ireland.  They Married aout 1842 in Ireland.  First two children John and Bernard, born in Ireland.  My GGrandfather John born Coatbridge 1846, followed by Ann, Margaret, Patrick and Thomas.
Isabella died 1865, Old Monkland (found on Scotlands People)
John died approx 1883, also in Coatbridge area.
What I am trying to confirm is if the 1861 Census, named a place in Ireland.
I am grateful for the information about Isabella
The entry for John, lodging with Partick in 1861, does it say how old Patrick is, so that I can confirm that one.
Thank you so much

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Lanarkshire / McAloon Family in 1861 Census - Old Monkland areas -
« on: Wednesday 02 March 22 03:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, I am trying to find out if my GG Grandfather on the 1861 Census, named a place in Lanarkshire. 
His name was John McAloon - in the 1851 census he is listed at Middle Ward and Airdrie, but birthplace is just "Ireland".
In the 1871 census, he is listed in Old Monkland Middle District.
His wife was Isabella - his children in 1851 Census were John James and Anne.
In 1871, his wife was deceased and his children listed as Partick, Thomas and Margaret
Has the 1861 Census been destroyed that I cannot find any reference to my family.
Any guidance will be gratefully accepted.
Regards Karen (Australia)

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Armed Forces / Re: 85th Regiment in Fulwood 1851 census
« on: Friday 02 April 21 01:04 BST (UK)  »
Thank you ShaunJ,
This has been something that has been a mystery to me about the 85th for years.  To know that they were depolyed to other areas, says a lot.  Did their families travel with them?
My ancestor, is William Toland, his wife, Catherine, and daughter, Rose Ann.
Did any records pertaining to the soldiers and their family, get recorded in public records or only in the military records.
Thank you for help

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Armed Forces / 85th Regiment in Fulwood 1851 census
« on: Thursday 01 April 21 03:12 BST (UK)  »
I have a 3rd great grandfather, who is showing on the 1851 Census, for Fulwood, Lancashire and listed as Soldier 85th Regiment.
He had a daughter age one yr, who was born in Ireland as was he and his wife.
I am trying to find out where the 85th went to after 1851, and the daughter is listed with deceased parents when she came out by ship in 1866.
Did men sign up for short periods, or did the Regiment  move around.
I cannot find any mention of the regiment in the 1861 census.
Any suggestions or pointers would be gratefully accepted.
Regards Karen

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