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Lancashire / Re: NOCKTON Brick Wall
« on: Friday 19 April 24 14:21 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, I thought I posted in the right place. I'm fairly new to the site so still learning how things work.
Thank you for all your help and advice.   :)


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Lancashire / Re: NOCKTON Brick Wall
« on: Friday 19 April 24 13:56 BST (UK)  »
I've just checked the GRO and it shows John Nockton b. 1861 in Warrington with a mothers maiden name of Kelly.

However, I so far can't find any marriage record for James Nockton and ?? Kelly between 1850 and 1861 either here in the UK or in Ireland.

Tracing your ancestors can be fun but it can also be very frustrating!

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Lancashire / Re: NOCKTON Brick Wall
« on: Friday 19 April 24 13:27 BST (UK)  »
There is a John Knockton b1861 in Warrington but his wife is Alice

I can see the 1891 Census says Warrington but in 1901 it's listed as Oldham. Would they have dropped the Warrington in later census info and just put the registration district?

In 1891 it shows his father in law, Christopher Stanley, living with him (tick) and in 1901 it has all the right children which is corroborated on the Lancashire OPC site for their baptisms (another tick)

You can see why I have so much trouble tracking him down  ???

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Lancashire / Re: NOCKTON Brick Wall
« on: Friday 19 April 24 12:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi, it's really hard to read but I think it says 1 Morgan Square, Oldham for both John and Margaret.

The witnesses were both Owens, one of which was Ellen but I can make out the other.

I have attached a copy of the certificate if that helps. John is an Iron Labourer and Margaret is a Cotton Operative

Many thanks
Leanne

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Lancashire / NOCKTON Brick Wall
« on: Friday 19 April 24 11:32 BST (UK)  »
Good morning and thank you for offering to carry out record research. It's much appreciated   :)

For several years (on and off) I have been tracing my partners family tree. For the most part this has been fairly straight forward but I have hit a brick wall when it comes to John NOCKTON and his parents.

According to census details he was born in Oldham in 1861 but I cannot find a record of his birth of details of his Mother.

I have a copy of his marriage certificate which shows he married Margaret STANLEY in 1884 in the Catholic Church of Our Lady and St Patrick, Oldham. Their ages are a little difficult to read but I think he is 23 and it looks like she is 18.

I know this is the correct union as I can follow the line forward from John and Margaret.

On the marriage certificate John's father is listed as James NOCKTON (Boot and Shoemaker). The only other detail I have been told is that James may have been born in Ireland but I don't have further details as I cannot positively go back further than John and Margaret's marriage.

I have tried variations of the name (Naughton, Knockton, Nocton and changing the o in ton to an e and i and a) but I can't seem to pin anything down.

If you are able to shed even a little light on this big black hole that has been sitting in my partners family tree for a long time I would be very grateful.

Many thanks
Leanne

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Stirlingshire / Re: Finding the right parents
« on: Wednesday 03 January 24 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for the information, I have a few bits to go back and check.

I have the following info for the children of Margaret and John
Marion 1837 - Grahamston
Janet 1839 - Grahamston
John 1841 - Grahamston
Margaret 1845 - Grahamston
Helen 1847 - Maryhill
Jeannie 1850 - Maryhill
Andrew 1855 - Milton

Would it be normal practice for an illegitimate child to take the name of the father or do I have to presume that Janet Dun married Robert Clark?

Thanks

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Stirlingshire / Finding the right parents
« on: Wednesday 03 January 24 18:15 GMT (UK)  »
I seriously under-estimated how difficult tracing my Scottish ancestors would be and I am hoping someone can help point me in the right direction to find the correct set of parents.

My 4x Great Grandmother was Margaret Clark. She was born between 1814 and 1816 in Grahamston, Stirling. She married John Johnston in 1836 and he was born around the same time in the same area. According to the 1841 census he was aged 25 and a Smith in Grahamston which changed to an iron grinder in the 1851 census.

I am trying to find their parents so I can go back further with my research, but their marriage only lists Margaret and John, no parents (clip attached), and to date, I haven't been able to find a birth record for John.

Using the little I know and cross referencing various websites (findmypast, familysearch and ScotlandsPeople to name but a few), I think I have found Margaret's parents - Robert Clark and Janet Dun - (clip attached). It shows Margaret was born in Sept 1814 but baptised in Oct 1815. I think it also says illegit by the side of her name but I'm not sure if I am reading that correctly or what consequence that may have in terms of further research, if any.

I have pencilled in their details for now but it's a huge leap of faith and a very big rabbit hole to go down if it's not right, so I was wondering if anyone knows of other sources I can turn to to find/confirm the names of Margaret and John's parents?

Any advice or pointers will be very gratefully received.
Thank you.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Cause of Death
« on: Thursday 21 December 23 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

My ancestors moved from Ireland to Scotland and I am trying to find ways of tracing where in Ireland my Irish ancestors came from.

In hope that a place-name may be given in birth, marriage or death certificates, I turned to the ScotlandsPeople website but so far I have had no luck.
 
However, in searching the death records I came across the attached for Henry McKeating.

I believe the first column reads "1868 October Twenty Sixth or Twenty Seventh on road opposite ??? to Railway Station, Girvan" I can't decipher what is written after "opposite" and before "to Railway Station".

Columns 2, 3 and 4 are not a problem but I cannot read the actual cause of death. The best I can make out is "expressive" but that is a pure guess and doesn't seem right.

I'm hoping someone with a better grasp of this style of handwriting can help me out.
Many thanks

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The Common Room / Fleshing out the tree
« on: Wednesday 20 December 23 12:01 GMT (UK)  »
Good morning,
I have been dipping in and out of researching both my and my partners family tree for several years and have a reasonable number of ancestors.
While it is okay to add names, dates and places etc, I am now looking to "flesh-out" some of the characters I have found with more information about their general lives, professions, social environment etc.
My question is has anyone found an easy to use program(s) to do this?
I would like it to be shared with family members and ideally add photos.
Thank you for your time.

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