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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:56 GMT (UK)  »
yeah! all the spelling errors with the different surnames, i am very confused with the E added on the end of Brown??

There's lots of reasons for the variations in the spelling of surnames.   In NSW after civil registration commenced for BDM in 1856, the paperwork system for registering births where baby was born outside of metro Sydney usually meant that one of the parents needed to attend the local court house.  You see, BDM deputy registrars were often part timers, and in rural areas, it became a part time function of the local Sherriff, who was attached to the Court House.  The deputy registrar asked the questions, and the informant (usually one of the parents) answered.  The deputy registrar wrote the answers into his ledger, and had the informant sign the entry.   This was done at a high and wide counter.   So even when the informant was a good speller, it was not always possible to clearly read what the deputy had recorded.   Then, the deputy registrar needed to send the info to Sydney to BDM HQ.  This they did four times a year, supposedly.   Sometimes they saved up the entire year's local entries and sent them all through at the one time.    They sent these through by ordinary mail. 

The clerks at NSW Registrar General's Office were responsible for processing these quarterly returns.   So, another opportunity for transcription errors.   Some clerks flourishes mean that Brown could be mis-read as Browne.   

Those types of flaws continued even after NSW BDM got typewriters in around 1914 or a tad later. 

In the 1930s a team of volunteers started to index the BDM ledgers held in Sydney.    They worked under trying circumstances, torn pages, over-written words,  thumb marks, ink bleeds into the page/s etc.

So as with any index, the NSW BDM online index has flaws that can be a trial to handle, but worth perserving, particularly when it comes to BROWN v BROWNE.

I have had a look through my own BROWN/e family and the many NSW BDM certs (actually official transcriptions) and sadly I do not have any for names that Cando has posted for you.   

I can offer a suggestion that may well help.    The NSW BDM marriage cert, go for the official transcription.  It is very likely that as this was a rural marriage, in that era, that there will be blanks in ALL the significant columns re the bride and the groom's parentage, and also that the NSW BDM entry is for a summary only, so it will not include the autographs of the couple.    Many fh buffs overlook seeking out the original Church register that should include ALL the information that the couple provided to the clergy when he was interviewing them BEFORE their marriage.    That will include the names of the parents of both the bride and the groom.     Here's a link to a thread I did up to help overcome those NSW BDM hurdles  :)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,546609.0.html

Cheers,  JM


oh!  thanku very much you all were very helpfull

cheers
Jennifer

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:24 GMT (UK)  »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0x4g/

Sydney Morning Herald 25 Aug 1902.

QUARTER SESSIONS. 

BRAIDWOOD, Friday.

The Quarter Sessions concluded to-day. Robert and Sarah Brown, charged with stealing turkeys, were acquitted. George Brown was convicted of stealing opossum skins, and was sentenced to two months' imprisonment in Goulburn Gaol.

Cando

lol! yes Turkeys

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:11 GMT (UK)  »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article119356173 1933
OBITUARY
Still another of the old pioneers of the district passed from our midst on Tuesday, when Mrs. Sarah Brown, widow of the late Robert Brown,died. This year will go down as one of the most severe in the district on the old hands. The deceased, whose husband predeceased her 20' years ago, had been in indifferent health, but like many of the sturdy old pioneers, refused to give in. However, she took a bad turn last Friday, from which she never recovered. She had been residing with her son at Manar, and was 81 years old when death claimed her. She was born in the district, and resided here all her life. ' She leaves a family of four sons (George, Robert,William, Albert) and four daughters! Deceased was a. sister of Mrs. T. H.Griggs, and Mrs. H. Mclntosh. The funeral took place on Wednesday, the remains being interred in St.Andrew's cemetery.

NSW BDM
DEATH Brown Sarah J with parents Robert and Harriet at Braidwood reg 19513/1933

oh wow look wat u found cheers!

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:08 GMT (UK)  »
And one to Sarah prior to her marriage to Robert George BROWN.

7793/1872
GREIGGS Mary Ann
Mother Sarah Jane
District Braidwood

Cando

yeah! all the spelling errors with the different surnames, i am very confused with the E added on the end of Brown??

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:06 GMT (UK)  »
Euradux Road runs north from main road just outside Braidwood.

Neil

yes i too looked at the maps trying to follow!

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:04 GMT (UK)  »
So born c1823.

A possible baptism... :-\  BUT with the surname BROWN.

BROWN Robert
Baptism 28 Sep 1823 Felton, Northumberland, England
Father George Mother Margaret

You need the 1873 marriage certificate to progress with your research.

Cando

maybe thxs

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 01:03 GMT (UK)  »
So born c1823.

A possible baptism... :-\  BUT with the surname BROWN.

BROWN Robert
Baptism 28 Sep 1823 Felton, Northumberland, England
Father George Mother Margaret

You need the 1873 marriage certificate to progress with your research.


Cando


ok thxs

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 00:24 GMT (UK)  »
i found it on trove newspapers online the local braidwood paper (braidwood dispatch & mining journal)

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Australia / Re: robert george brown
« on: Monday 02 December 13 00:10 GMT (UK)  »
lol yeah when i did the math too i was like huh?? and on that note that is the problem i dont know & cannot find where he was born! his obit says he was from the coastal district??

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