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Down / Masseys of Saintfield
« on: Thursday 24 March 16 15:23 GMT (UK)  »
I think that my family history has a link to this store which is currently located in Main Street, Saintfield, Co. Down. The shop is a butchers and is called Masseys of Saintfield.

My relatives were George Batton and Eliza Massey who resided in Tonaghmore, near Saintfield in 1850's until 1867 - that we know of.  George Batton died in Ayrshire, Scotland in September 1872. Some time between his daughter getting married in 1st Saintfield Presbyterian Church in July 1867 and his death in 1872 he moved to Scotland with his sons - John, Samuel, Andrew, Robert and George.  His daughter Ellen moved to Ayrshire in the 1870's.
Eliza Massey was the daughter of Alexander Massey and his wife Susanna. They farmed land in Tonghamore.  Alexander died in November 1872 and his will left everything to wife Susanna and sons William, John and Robert Massey.
We think that Eliza died and George moved to Scotland with his children.
Fast forward to 1901 and there is a Grocer in Saintfield by the name of Alexander Batton and he appears in the 1901 and 1911 Census.   The shop that he works from is the same store that is now Masseys of Saintfield (butcher).
We don't know if this is coincidental with the names Massey and Batton but we would love to hear from anyone who may remember anything, including the history of the current butchers shop.

Thanks
Sandra

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Down / Re: Saintfield, County Down, Ireland
« on: Thursday 24 March 16 15:10 GMT (UK)  »
Both the names Ferris and Cardwell feature in my family history that I've been researching in Tonaghmore and Saintfield.
Eliza Ferris was a witness at one of my relatives weddings. Ellen Batton married James Gordon in 1st Saintfield Presbyterian Church in July 1867 and the witness was Eliza Ferris.
My Batton and Massey families were living in Tonaghmore at the time of the 1863 census (Alexander Massey, Robert Massey and George Batton) and their neighbour was William Ferris. We think that Eliza was the daughter of William.
Alexander Massey died in November 1872 and Samuel Cardwell was appointed executor of this will.
Perhaps they were friends and neighbours. I can provide you will copies of the above documents. But I'm afraid I don't have any more information on the Ferris family.
A family member visited 1st Saintfield and was able to document information from the registers there.
Regards
Sandra

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Ireland / Re: Bridget Mannix - how do I begin?
« on: Monday 05 October 09 20:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi David.
Wonderful news. I was researching the Kelly family on behalf of good friends of ours who live in Mississippi USA.
Bridget Mannix married Joseph Kelly and they lived near Tupelo Mississippi.
Any news you have on the Kelly/Mannix connection would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Sandra

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Ayrshire / Galston - Batton family
« on: Sunday 15 February 09 17:16 GMT (UK)  »
My Great Great Great Grandfather died on 30th September 1872 in Union Street, Newmilns. Death registered in Galston, Ayrshire and death certificate signed by son Samuel who resided at Burnhouse Cottages.
The Batton family continued (and still continue) to live in the area.
I am trying to find out why George Batton moved from Ireland and went to Galston....
He was listed in Tonaghmore, Saintfield, near Belfast in 1863.
We think he might have came to Galston after his wife Eliza Batton (ms Massey) died.
George and Eliza had the following siblings :
Ellen (Helen) who married James Gordon and lived in Riccarton
John who married Jessie Steel (Galston) and went to USA to live in 1880
Andrew who married Lilias McGregor at Dalserf and lived in Galston until 1901 - then moved to Douglas
Samuel who married Isabella Anderson in Tradeston Glasgow then moved to USA in 1882
Robert? we have him moving to USA in 1882 sailing with Jessie Batton (wife on John).

If anyone can shed any light please let me know.


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Down / Re: Batton Gordon Massey families 1870 Saintfield area
« on: Tuesday 10 February 09 19:59 GMT (UK)  »
Tonaghmore - Massey family.

I found entry for Alexander Massey who was living as a neighbour to George Batton during the Valuation 1862....in Tonaghmore, Saintfield.
We believe Alexander Massey died in late 1872. He had a son Robert daughter Eliza/Elizabeth.
We are trying to find out anything about birth or death of Elizabeth.
Her last child born circa 1866 named Robert and George (her husband/partner) died in Scotland in September 1872. So this would probably be the date range where she died. We think that George went to Scotland with his children after Eliza died? Seems a reasonable conclusion. 

Does anyone know how I would find out if there are remaining ancestors in/around Saintfield from this Massey family. It was not an uncommon name in the area......


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Down / Re: Batton Gordon Massey families 1870 Saintfield area
« on: Tuesday 10 February 09 19:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the list of Batton/Batten family members departing Ireland.
Although the Batton family were born in Ireland we have evidence that they moved to Scotland.
So the sailing port for them would have been Glasgow.
I have managed to trace Samuel Batton and wife Isabella leaving Scotland.
Also managed to trace Jessie Batton, Robert Batton and 2 batton children. We know that Jessie's husband John departed earlier than the family.

Another John Batton, son of Andrew Batton also went to USA in 1890's,

I will look for their entries on Ellis / Castle Garden site.

Thanks for your help.

Sandra

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Down / Re: Batton Gordon Massey families 1870 Saintfield area
« on: Monday 09 February 09 23:34 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the links to the websites. I recently started using the pilotfamilysearch website and it has proved invaluable for tracing other Batton family members who moved to New York in the 1850's.

After posting I went onto the Griffiths Valuation website and was able to view the transcript page for Tonaghmore in 1863 and found George Batton, Alexander Massey and Robert Massey were all tenants of Tonaghmore at the same time. So this proves the Massey link.... All of the Batton death certificates list that their mother was Elizabeth Massey and father was George Batton.

We also know that all of the Batton children were born in Ireland.  we only have the date of birth for one of the sons - John Batton - on his US passport application in 1920 he lists his date of birth as 10th June 1852 in Belfast Ireland.
Do you know if it is possible to get a copy of the birth certificate or did they not need to register the birth of any of their children.
Surely 6 children must have been recorded somewhere, in a Church parish register? I know they were all presbyterian Church...

thanks for the information on George Batton, Cornwall. Will stat checking this out.



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Down / Batton Gordon Massey families 1870 Saintfield area
« on: Sunday 08 February 09 17:30 GMT (UK)  »
I believe that my ancestor George Batton lived in Tonaghmore. He shows in Griffiths Valuation in 1863/4
George Batton was married to Eliza Massey and their daughter Ellen married James Gordon at 1st Presbyterian Church in Saintfield on 6th July 1867.  Shows that Ellen lived in Drumnaconnell and James lived in Tullychien? James was the son of James Gordon and Ellen was the daughter of George Batton, Stone Mason.
Witness is showing as Eliza Ferris and Robert Massey.

Can any tell me anything about the Batton family. George and Eliza had the following children :
Ellen born ca 1848, Samuel, John, Andrew, George and Robert.
We know that John was born on 10th June 1852 in Belfast as we found his US passport application complete with photograph in 1920.

George Batton died in Galston, Ayrshire on 30th September 1872. We think that he returned or went to Galston after the death of Eliza Massey. We can find no marriage record for George and Eliza so perhaps they never married.

Ellen and James Gordon's children were born in Ireland until 1873. After the birth of N.John Gordon in 1873 the next son was born in Galston in 1876.

I am trying to find out more about Eliza Massey and George Batton. I can only assume the link with Co. Down from Ellen marrying in Saintfield and George Batton showing in Tonaghmore in 1863/4.

Would appreciate any advice on trying to find out more.
I have tried various emerald ancestors/ancestry ireland websites to no avail....

Regards
Sandra

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Down / Re: Bernard Ward - Agnes (Nancy) Mullen
« on: Wednesday 30 July 08 18:19 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the hints and tips.
Will try to find out more information......

Regards
Sandra

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