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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Monday 06 September 10 15:26 BST (UK) »
Mike, I'll be in touch via your email address. Thanks
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Monday 06 September 10 15:08 BST (UK) »
Mike, one in the same. My entries on this site pretty much include all the info I have on our Morrisroe connections. If in reviewing you get any further insights, I'd be anxious to hear them. Good luck and welcome aboard. FrankO
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Tuesday 10 August 10 18:35 BST (UK) »
if its any help..I recall that my JP McDonagh may be in sheffield by the 1890 census which puts him in UK earlier than I suggested. Just can't find my reference at this point. Nevertheless that would mean that your Bartholomew was also likely in UK and so explains the consription. Besides, though they may have been permitted to enlist, I wouldn't bet that the Irish (in Ireland) were consripted at that time.
In fact in Crofton's note it says that Bartholomew Morrisroe b 1836 was already in Wharncliffe, Sheffield in 1881 (he's the father of Bartholomew b 1870). Looks like senior went to UK first then was followed by his sons...later senior returned to Ireland.
You're right about the reoccuring Bartholomew name. I mentioned earlier that my JP named his first son Bartholomew...later following up with other sons John and James..just too many coincidences I'd say.
In fact in Crofton's note it says that Bartholomew Morrisroe b 1836 was already in Wharncliffe, Sheffield in 1881 (he's the father of Bartholomew b 1870). Looks like senior went to UK first then was followed by his sons...later senior returned to Ireland.
You're right about the reoccuring Bartholomew name. I mentioned earlier that my JP named his first son Bartholomew...later following up with other sons John and James..just too many coincidences I'd say.
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Tuesday 10 August 10 01:12 BST (UK) »
actually my great grand father was your great grand father's first cousin if my assumed connections are correct. He was John P. McDonagh and he arrived in Sheffield region around 1900 along with James, John and Bartholomew Morrisroe. It appears that they worked for a time at Dixon's mill which is a paper mill near Oughtibridge. My great grand father stayed there and married a local woman named Hodkin; whereas the Morrisroes may have moved on..though one note says they became local policemen. I strongly suspect that John P Mc's parents were Michael McDonagh and Sara Morrisroe from Brogher/Derrygolagh area in Sligo/Roscommon. I recall finding them in either the 1901 or 1911 census which is online.
It appears you're more closely related toCrofton based on his 6/25/09 entry. His grand father (Edward) and your great grand father (Bartholomew) were brothers. They also had sister Eliza who appears to have lived at least for a while in Phila or Mass. If it was Mass..maybe that's what drew Bartholomew to there as well.
It appears you're more closely related toCrofton based on his 6/25/09 entry. His grand father (Edward) and your great grand father (Bartholomew) were brothers. They also had sister Eliza who appears to have lived at least for a while in Phila or Mass. If it was Mass..maybe that's what drew Bartholomew to there as well.
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Monday 02 August 10 00:40 BST (UK) »
I suppose my question is whether or not your Bartholomew is the same as the Bartholomew listed in Crofton's 6/25/09 message. That Bartholomew Morrisroe was born in 1870 and along with his two
brothers lived in Sheffield around the turn of the century. Their father was also Bartholomew b 1836 and he worked at Dixon's Paper Mill...which is the connection with my great grand father John Patrick McDonagh. John Patrick emigrated from Derrygolagh (Roscommon or Sligo?) and worked his life at Dixon's. It was his cousins Morrisroe who he arrived with..and no surprise that he eventually named his sons Bartholomew, James and John. I strongly suspect that his mother was Sara Morrisroe who was married to Michael Mcdonagh. Anyway it this is the same Bartholomew as yours, it would mean he later moved on to the US. Any of this seem to fit? FrankO
brothers lived in Sheffield around the turn of the century. Their father was also Bartholomew b 1836 and he worked at Dixon's Paper Mill...which is the connection with my great grand father John Patrick McDonagh. John Patrick emigrated from Derrygolagh (Roscommon or Sligo?) and worked his life at Dixon's. It was his cousins Morrisroe who he arrived with..and no surprise that he eventually named his sons Bartholomew, James and John. I strongly suspect that his mother was Sara Morrisroe who was married to Michael Mcdonagh. Anyway it this is the same Bartholomew as yours, it would mean he later moved on to the US. Any of this seem to fit? FrankO
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Saturday 08 May 10 15:41 BST (UK) »
I believe I've closed the gap in connecting my JP McDonagh and his Morrisroe cousins (James and Bartholomew). Recently came upon a marriage between Michael McDonagh and Sarah Morrisroe. They had a daughter Anne in 1866 in Boyle area. I believe these are also the parents of my great grand father John P. McD. Later I know they lived at Derrygolagh which I can see is near Brougher.
I was really excited to see that connection with Dixon's Mill. As I mentioned JP also worked there in 1890's-1930's. My bet is that your great grandfather got him the position and was likely his Uncle on his mother's side. Any thoughts on the matter? FrankO
I was really excited to see that connection with Dixon's Mill. As I mentioned JP also worked there in 1890's-1930's. My bet is that your great grandfather got him the position and was likely his Uncle on his mother's side. Any thoughts on the matter? FrankO
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Thursday 02 July 09 21:03 BST (UK) »
By Jove this is getting all the better. My John Patrick McDonagh also worked at Dixon's Paper Mill in maintenance. I believe he lived in a house on the grounds which I assumed was owned by his employer. I have a photo of Ms Dixon, her daughter and my great grand dad JP giving a mill tour. Also a photo of his family circa 1909 in a yard on the mill grounds.
Was your grand father born in Ireland or England?..I couldn't quite tell by your writing. I am truly trying to confirm that it was in fact Ballinafad where JP was born. You had mention about two or three brothers later becoming policemen..ironically we thought JP and his cousins fled Ireland after selling off his parent's cow without their permission. FrankO
Was your grand father born in Ireland or England?..I couldn't quite tell by your writing. I am truly trying to confirm that it was in fact Ballinafad where JP was born. You had mention about two or three brothers later becoming policemen..ironically we thought JP and his cousins fled Ireland after selling off his parent's cow without their permission. FrankO
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Friday 19 June 09 19:50 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't think there'd be a batch of Bartholomew Morrisroes....do you happen to have his brother's names? As I said my graet grand father John Patrick McDonagh left for Sheffield with two of his cousins...They first were put up at St Vincents on Solly St Sheffield and the John P moved to Oughtibridge. Later he married a Hodkin and thought enough about his cousins that he named his first son Bartholomew and another James. Other family names were Kane and Spelman. Any connection? FrankO
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Roscommon / Re: Morrisroe: Roscommon
« on: Friday 12 September 08 21:06 BST (UK) »
Do you happen to know: did your Thomas have relatives (brothers James and Bartholomew}? My ancester John Patrick McDonagh b1862 in Ballinafad, Roscommon emigrated to Sheffield area with his two Morrisroe cousins prior to 1900. If you have any info, it will be much appreciated. Thanks FrankO
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