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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Monday 12 October 09 10:26 BST (UK)  »
Tom

I've now joined Lancashire Libraries (they give you a temporary number online) and looked at the Gale database.  It's a very useful resource.

One question: for the Manchester Times of 24 Aug 1889 you said that they 'took the trouble both to report it and give an obituary'.  I could only find the death notice that you quoted originally.  Is there an obituary elsewhere?

Best wishes
Barrie

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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Sunday 11 October 09 18:09 BST (UK)  »
Tom

WH is probably William Henry Liddell, born 1833 and son of James junior, who rose to be a Captain.  If you want the whole Liddell dynasty in Bodmin up to 1900, I have it courtesy of Denis Mollison of this website.

Barrie

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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Sunday 11 October 09 15:37 BST (UK)  »
Tom

Thanks very much for all the info and I will certainly try and get onto the database.  I live in Oxfordshire so there should be several options.  I also sometimes go to Colindale to consult their vast library of newspapers.

James Liddell senior was born around 1765 and came to Bodmin in the late 1780s to set up as a stationer, bookseller and printer.  He was certainly there by 1790, and later information speaks of 1787.  The only reference I had found to Lancashire (before your message) was in his son's obituary  100 years later.

Best wishes
Barrie

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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Saturday 10 October 09 09:22 BST (UK)  »
Tom

I am most interested in Capt Liddell's father, James Liddell.  Do you think that the entry in the Manchester newspaper is an indication that his father came from that town?

Also, the mentions in the Exeter newspapers, would they be to father or son?  If the father, which titles?

Thanks for your help,
Barrie  :)

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Cornwall / Re: LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Friday 25 September 09 16:51 BST (UK)  »
I have now mapped out the Liddells back to James Liddell born 1765 who appears to be the first to come to Cornwall (in the 1780s).  He appears to have come from Lancashire (see below).  Anybody know anything about Liddells there?

Best wishes
Barrie


The Royal Cornwall Gazette of 22 August 1889 has a long obituary on James' son Commander James Liddell.  Here is an extract:

‘His father was a native of Lancashire, but Commander Liddell was born at Bodmin, his parents having settled in Cornwall in the closing decade of the last century.’

This article is of course a hundred or so years after James Liddell came to Cornwall and presumably relies on information from relations of James junior, so we can't be sure that it's correct.  In addition his mother Mary was Cornish, so the article got it at least slightly wrong.  However, this information would appear to be all that we have concrete to go on so far.

The IGI reveals that there were Liddells in Lancashire at the appropriate date, but I cannot find a suitable birth of a James around 1765.  It's a mystery why he went to Cornwall.  Presumably he would have been apprenticed to a printer to learn his trade.  But whereso, in Manchester or Liverpool perhaps, or maybe in Exeter, Plymouth or Truro?  I wonder if the connection with the Martyns came first.  Are there any Printers in that family?


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Cornwall / Re: MARTYN Family of St Columb Minor
« on: Tuesday 01 September 09 19:51 BST (UK)  »
Dear Kris - and others

I'm another descendant of the Martyns of St Columb Minor - one of my
g4grandmothers being Mary Martyn (1770-1845), daughter of John M
and Gertrude Hiscutt.  She married James Liddell (ca. 1765-1839),
who started a family business as printer and stationer in Bodmin in
about 1787 that lasted well into the 20th C.
They married in St Columb Minor in 1793, and had 10 children
(and about 40 grandchildren- virtually all the 19th C  Liddells
in Cornwall are descended from them - so much easier to sort than
all those Martyns!).  Their 4th son, William Liddell (1802-1854), was a
surgeon who emigrated to Madras with his family in 1833 and became
Coroner of Madras; the attached photo is of his eledest daughter,
my g2grandmother, Susan Gertrude Liddell (1828-1911), probably
from around the time of her marriage in 1847 to a scottish east
india merchant, George Walker (1818-1904).  I have a diary of
theirs for 1860-63, when they were living in Wimbledon (with
George still running his company in Madras).

With best wishes

Denis Mollison

Do you have any more on James Liddell?

BC

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Cornwall / Re: Liddells of Bodmin
« on: Monday 31 August 09 19:50 BST (UK)  »
I've just found a mention under the Martyn family topic.  Is dmollison there?

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Cornwall / LIDDELL of Bodmin
« on: Monday 31 August 09 19:47 BST (UK)  »
Has anybody done any work on the Liddells of Bodmin?

I am just starting to map them out and would like to avoid duplicating somebody else's work

BC

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