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Down / Re: Shaw/Byrne, Tullyorior, Co. Down
« on: Saturday 23 December 23 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello CalicoCat124
Replying from Brisbane, Australia
Just been into RootsChat after some years and saw your post.
I haven't really researched the Bryne's ide of the family to be honest, however have found these little bits of info that mentioned the name.
1803 Agricultural Census
This agricultural census was taken in 1803 and although the amount of information from each parish varies, it is a very useful source from an early date. The returns for the parish of Garvaghy were examined and information relating to our family was found in the townland of Tullyorior. There were however three different sections which had townland names which may have been alternative spellings of Tullorier.
The first was Tullyory. At the time of the first Ordinance Survey the local pronunciation was [Tul-ly-‘o-ry], appearing in written form on a local tombstone: Tullyory (1810) in Annaclone graveyard. In this townland were found six Byrns – Val. Byrns, […]ilmore Byrns, John D […]ason Byrns, John ea[…] Byrns, […]ell Byrns and Arthur Byrns. We do not know the name of our Anne Byrnes father, although it is possible that it was one of these men.
We know that Garrett Valentine Byrne was connected to our family and Val. Bryns is probably short for Valentine Bryns. The 1803 Agricultural Census tells us that he had one oxen, five cows, two pigs, one riding horse, two draft horses, two cars (or carts), 700 bushels of oats, 20 loads of hay, 40 loads of straw and 40 sacks of potatoes, so he was quite a prosperous farmer.
The next townland heading was Tullyorey. At the time of the first Ordinance Survey this spelling in written form was found on one local tombstone: Tullyorey (1778) in Seapatrick graveyard. There were two Bryns in this section – Patrick Byrns and […]arrance Byrns as well as Mark Shaw. Mark Shaw had three cows, one pig, 60 bushels of oats, nine loads of straw and 20 sacks of potatoes.
Finally there was a townland section where the whole name could not be read because of how the book wad bound. The townland ended---rey. This townland has six Byrns – Edwd, Patrick, Edward, Bryne, Edwd., and John. There were also five Shaw’s listed – P[…]etter, Thomas, Patrick, Mark and Michael.
Not sure if any of this has any connection whatsoever to "your" Brynes, however thought I would share it
All the best
Gary
Replying from Brisbane, Australia
Just been into RootsChat after some years and saw your post.
I haven't really researched the Bryne's ide of the family to be honest, however have found these little bits of info that mentioned the name.
1803 Agricultural Census
This agricultural census was taken in 1803 and although the amount of information from each parish varies, it is a very useful source from an early date. The returns for the parish of Garvaghy were examined and information relating to our family was found in the townland of Tullyorior. There were however three different sections which had townland names which may have been alternative spellings of Tullorier.
The first was Tullyory. At the time of the first Ordinance Survey the local pronunciation was [Tul-ly-‘o-ry], appearing in written form on a local tombstone: Tullyory (1810) in Annaclone graveyard. In this townland were found six Byrns – Val. Byrns, […]ilmore Byrns, John D […]ason Byrns, John ea[…] Byrns, […]ell Byrns and Arthur Byrns. We do not know the name of our Anne Byrnes father, although it is possible that it was one of these men.
We know that Garrett Valentine Byrne was connected to our family and Val. Bryns is probably short for Valentine Bryns. The 1803 Agricultural Census tells us that he had one oxen, five cows, two pigs, one riding horse, two draft horses, two cars (or carts), 700 bushels of oats, 20 loads of hay, 40 loads of straw and 40 sacks of potatoes, so he was quite a prosperous farmer.
The next townland heading was Tullyorey. At the time of the first Ordinance Survey this spelling in written form was found on one local tombstone: Tullyorey (1778) in Seapatrick graveyard. There were two Bryns in this section – Patrick Byrns and […]arrance Byrns as well as Mark Shaw. Mark Shaw had three cows, one pig, 60 bushels of oats, nine loads of straw and 20 sacks of potatoes.
Finally there was a townland section where the whole name could not be read because of how the book wad bound. The townland ended---rey. This townland has six Byrns – Edwd, Patrick, Edward, Bryne, Edwd., and John. There were also five Shaw’s listed – P[…]etter, Thomas, Patrick, Mark and Michael.
Not sure if any of this has any connection whatsoever to "your" Brynes, however thought I would share it
All the best
Gary