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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Hipperholme 15th century
« on: Saturday 18 March 23 09:19 GMT (UK)  »
I have found every reference I can to Broadleys from 1362, when the first of the line, John Brodeleghe, was Constable of Ovenden, to the 1650s when our direct ancestor had left Yorkshire for Darwen in Lancashire. My cousin and I have bought wills, disputes, manorial records for Shelf, articles from HAS, YAHS, books, and read every reference online. (And aalt, for which many thanks.) I have put together every family I can but am stuck on William and Richard Bro(a)dley who had children in Northowram/Shelf mid 1500s but may have been born in Lightcliffe in Hipperholme. Unfortunately it seems there are no surviving manorial records for Hipperholme. Does anyone have any tips or tricks to help with the 1400s? The Y-DNA project proves we can get back to 1362.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Anyone come across the forename Hamonis?
« on: Thursday 16 March 23 19:32 GMT (UK)  »
Have you read Christian names in local and family history by George Redmonds? There is a long discussion on p.65 "Hamo or Hamon(d) is another Norman name with a Germanic origin still in use in 1377-81... Hamlet is a double diminutive of this name but has no direct connection with Shakespeare's Hamlet which had an Icelandic origin. However there may be an indirect connection....Hamo and its diminutive Hamlet, had been used by the Masseys of Hale in Cheshire since the Norman Conquest... other gentry family in Cheshire and south Lancashire who used the name...

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with work on 1604 Will please
« on: Sunday 01 January 23 20:33 GMT (UK)  »
I think it is frentiship (friendship)

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Words from Wills by Stuart A. Raymond says 1. A shallow oval tub or half-barrel, used for salting meat, kneading bread, making cheese, etc. 2. The windlass over a well 3. A ring turning on a swivel, a terret, used on horse harness.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Which DNA test to purchase?
« on: Thursday 08 December 22 20:34 GMT (UK)  »
It depends how far back the gaps on the paternal side are. If they are the last couple of hundred years or so autosomal might be more useful. FTDNA is very good for Y-DNA but you may find your matches are very far back in time and don't help with more recent NPEs. If you read the Lost Cousins newsletters by Peter Calver he has much good advice.

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In Lancashire I have found newspaper reports of affiliation orders, but at an earlier date.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / 1508 Hipperholme property
« on: Saturday 12 November 22 13:43 GMT (UK)  »
In 1508 in Hipperhome, Robert, son of John Brodelegh, gave a messuage and 16 acres to Thomas Brodelegh, John brother of Thomas Brodelegh, Richard son of Thomas Haldworth and Gilbert son of Robert Otes; ingress 9s.
Later in the century Mr Clement Oglethorpe's rentals include certain lands in Hipperholme holden of the manor of Halifax in the tenure of Robert Brighouse Edward Brodley Thomas Northend.
This second, later group are three first cousins. Edward's two paternal aunts are the mothers of Robert Brighouse and Thomas Northend.
The 1508 group I think shows an uncle, Robert, son of John Brodelegh, handing property to his two nephews Thomas and John brother of Thomas. Is it likely that the other two people named are also his nephews, via his sisters?

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Lancashire / Re: Edward Cunliffe and wife Clara (née Wall) - Clayton le Moors
« on: Thursday 10 November 22 19:20 GMT (UK)  »
There is a Cunliffe DNA group on facebook run by an Edward Cunliffe which includes the Clayton le Moors and Great Harwood contingent. My Cunliffes were Catholic and yours aren't ringing a bell but I'll check my tree.

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The Common Room / Re: English Names
« on: Saturday 05 November 22 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you arthurk for the information. I don't have that book, just a bit too dear for me, unfortunately, but I borrowed it on inter-library loan for the surnames I am interested in.

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