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Antrim / Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« on: Thursday 28 December 23 23:07 GMT (UK)  »
Correction the 1855 marriage was 28 December 1855.
And his spouse  was Agnes Boyd.

I am not sure how to post the Irishgenealogy link except by copying the site and it seems awfully long and doesn't seem to work.

So will just try the irishgenealogy site instead. Still does not look as if it will work though

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie


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Antrim / Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« on: Thursday 28 December 23 22:56 GMT (UK)  »
I am getting lost in Brysons so have been working through some of the relationships.

I have looked up the 12 Dec 1855 marriage of James Bryson of Ballyvoy ,  who was the son of another James Bryson, to Annie Boyd, widow  of Ballybracken who was the daughter of Robert Bryson.



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Antrim / Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« on: Monday 13 November 23 05:43 GMT (UK)  »
So going to the site http://www.gawnfamilystory.co.uk/JohnGawnF1768.htm

Agnes born c1795 is listed as daughter of John who lived Ballyvoy. John Gawn born c1768 was the son of James Gawn of Donegore born c1737

Agnes Gawn and Francis Ferguson married 10 May 1821 at Donegore Presbyt.Church.

Agnes had a brother John Gawn whose will can be seen on the Gawn website. Or at least it is, if the date 1907 is incorrect. John Gawn refers to his sister Agnes and her son John Ferguson but talks about him as in his minority and any siblings yet to be born.  So that is a little confusing. But the site also says that John Gawn of Ballyvoy died a bachelor in c 1822 or 1823 which is a better match to when Agnes' son John Ferguson was in his minority.

John also appoints his uncle John Bryson as an executor, which implies that Agnes and John were the the children of John Gawn born c1768 and a Bryson wife.

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Antrim / Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« on: Monday 13 November 23 05:17 GMT (UK)  »
I have been catching up on the Gawn-Bryson families and just want to restate that Robert Bryson, surgeon and Eleanor Gawn had only two sons that I know about:

John Alexander Bryson born 18 Mar 1825 and emigrated to Canada, whether before or after marriage to Mary Gamble, I do not know but here are 9 unviewed hints that might tell me. The oldest son that  I have is Charles born Richmond, Ontario on 6 Jun 1845. I have a total of 9 children noted including Eleanor Gawn Bryson born 1854.

The other son James Bryson, born 1827 died 19 Mar 1850 and is buried at I think Kilbride, along with his grandfather James Gawn.

I have yet to check the other Gawn-Bryson marriage but have a feeling that the father of Agnes Gawn who married Francis Ferguson may not be recorded but I haven't looked for her for some time.

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Antrim / Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« on: Thursday 09 November 23 06:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Deb

I expect Gilby will contact you by personal message to give you his email address for you to send the Will. And if you don't mind, for him to then forward on to me also. The GawnFamily story site that Gilby sent you belongs to a distant Gawn relative of mine, Billy Gawn. When we first started exchanging info in the 1990s we knew there was a connection between his Gawn family and mine but did not know where it was, except perhaps c 1750 ish.  Now if you go to the site you will find my Ancestor is the John Gawn b c1725 on the left and Billy's ancestor is the James Gawn born c1837 on the right.  My gt grandmotehr was a Gawn and she married a Graham. Gilby is related to me through my  Graham side.


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Donegal / Re: Colhoun of Co. Donegal
« on: Tuesday 03 October 23 01:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jack and Pablo

Yes many of thise names you list Jack are connected to the Colhouns that are of interest to me. Starting with John Colhoun of Taughboyne who died 1755 this is his tombstone.

Taughboyne Graveyard
Here lieth the body of Mary Colhoun
Alias Mary Owen who died ye. 9th day of September 1741 aged 70{born 1671}
Also the body of John Colhoun {her husband}who died the 17th day of March 1743 aged 78 {born1673}
Also the body of Mary Colhoun alias
Nesbitt who died the 17th day ***** 1743 aged 38
 
Here lyeth the body of Mr John Colhoun who departed this life
The 21st April 1755 aged 55 or 85 years {illegible} years


So it appears John was the son of John Colhoun snr and Mary Owens. From John Colhoun jnrs  Will it appears that John's son Owens was named after his mother's family.

Next it would seem that John's children (Jack, Andrew, William, Owens and Isabella) were all children of his frist wife Mary nee Nesbitt who died 1743. John;s 2nd wife Elizabeth is not listed on this tombstone.

John names his children in his Will and names his wife Elizabeth and Tristram Cary as executors. Tristram Cary was also the father-in-law of John's son William Colhoun.

Which brings me to the ship Hannah which arrived in Philadelphia  Pennylvania on 4 Nov 1807. On which were several Colhoon families including a Tristram Colhoon and a Nesbitt Colhooon. Both unusual names.

A Tristram Colhoun of Taughboyne married a Mary Paterson of Taughboyne at Raphoe on  28 Feb 1778.

A William Colhoun of Taughboyne married a McAusland  of Taughboyne at Raphoe on the 26 Dec 1780.

Some of the land at Corncammon that John Colhoun left to his sons Jack and William passed to Jack's son John  Cohoun ( surgeon and apothecary) who married Elizabeth Fivey in 1787.

Book 396 / Page 162 / Number 334951
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-7SQK-6?cat=185720
Memorial of lease and release (marriage settlement) dated 29th Sep 1787 between John Colhown [Colhoun] of the city of Londonderry, surgeon and apothecary, on the 1st part; Hugh Woodney [?] and James Cully both of Newry, Co Down, Gents on the 2nd; John Fivey and Elizabeth Fivey spinster, daughter of said John, on the 3rd part.  Marriage intended between John Colhown and Elizabeth Fivey.  In consideration of £300, John Colhown granted to Hugh Woodney and James Culley half of the townland of Corncamon, Barony of Raphoe, Co Donegal.  John Fivey granted to Hugh Woodney and James Culley the part lands of Greenan near Loughbrickland, Co Down, which he was then intitled to under the will of his father Thomas Fivey deceased, and also the part of Greenan lately purchased by him from his daughter to the said Elizabeth Fivey for the residue of a term of 2000 years.  Witnessed by Cathe [?] Toubert of Canal St, Newry, widow, and Danl Brown of Newry, attorney.

John Colhoun  son of Jack, died 1796 and Mary Gallagher, widow of William Gallagher had claim on the estate. Probably related to this deed. (Deeds courtesy of Matthew Gilbert aka Gilby).

Book 396 / Page 162 / Number 260736
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-5PWF?i=90&cat=185720
Memorial of a mortgage dated May 1787 between John Colhown [Colhoun] of Corncammon, Co Donegal, gent, on the 1st part; William Gallagher of Ruskey, Co Donegal, farmer, on the second.  Whereby John Colhoun granted to Gallagher the moiety of Corncammon as theretofore was in the occupation of John Colhoun deceased and his undertenants, and now of the said John Colhoun.  The moiety being the north side of the townland of Corncammon, Barony of Raphoe, Co Donegal.  William Gallagher to hold with all rights, subject to an annuity of £20/pa, plus a clause of redemption upon payment of a certain sum.  Deed and memorial witnessed by Peter McDonagh, not. pub., and Peter McDonagh junior, both of the City of Londonderry.

A descandant of John Fivey Colhoun has had a yDNA test and I am hoping that sometime soon, a descendant of  William Colhoun and Elizabeth Roulston of Corncammon will also get a yDNA test done and thereby make or disprove a connection between William's father, Andrew Colhoun of Corncammon (died 1865) and the family of John Colhoun of Taughboyne.

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Donegal / Re: Colhoun of Co. Donegal
« on: Monday 02 October 23 13:38 BST (UK)  »

Hi

Brian Anton who has been deciphering the DNA for many of the Donegal Colhoun lines has started posting about the various records. I hope this links works. It deals with early records relating to John Colquhoun of Camstradden and his son Robert and the elusive Adam.

https://calhoungenealogy.wordpress.com/2023/09/07/we-didnt-know-adam-from-adam/

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Donegal / Re: Colhoun of Co. Donegal
« on: Monday 02 October 23 13:09 BST (UK)  »
This is the link to my previous Colhoun post.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=808417.0

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Donegal / Re: Colhoun of Co. Donegal
« on: Monday 02 October 23 13:05 BST (UK)  »
John Colhoun who died 1755 and was the agent for Abercorne, was the father of John (Jack) Colhoun born c 1725 who married Jane Rankin (died 1799). Their son Thomas Colhoun of St Johnston (died 1821)  was the solicitor who was the father of Samuel Colquhoun who married Jane Sproule, and of Isaac Colquhoun who married Jane Moore. Their brother John Colhoun married Sibella Ball. Lots more siblings in this family.

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