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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Wednesday 19 March 14 15:45 GMT (UK)  »
William Gray in the 1851 Census - we assumed he was married to Jane Middlemiss, but I cannot find a marriage record either....I searched only Northumberland and through the years 1830-1860

1851 census for Ford

William Gray 38 labourer
Jane   33 b Branton
Robert   5
Margaret 4
Jane 1
HO107 Piece 2422 Folio 196 Page 35

In 1861 they had the following children plus sister in law

Elizabeth   9
Mary  7
Isabella   4
William   10 Months
Elizabeth Middlemiss 59 sister in law unmarried b Norham
RG9 Piece 3890 Folio 93 Page 8

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Wednesday 19 March 14 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Trish1120, no, I'm afraid we don't have a marriage certificate for William and Jane, just the fact that they were married, and this was from a GedCom file from a cousin whom I've never met. If you can't find a marriage, could that mean they were married elsewhere?
Thank you so much for helping!

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Tuesday 18 March 14 16:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you WolfieSmith - I think my ancestor's are Middlemiss rather than Middlemass, but it's always interesting to read about names / people who are similar as they may be, in fact, the correct ancestor.

I am searching for William Gray as well, my G G Grandfather: This is all I have on him, other than the fact that he married Jane Middlemiss:

BIRTHDATE 1813
Ford, Northumberland
DEATH DATE 1889
Ford, Northumberland

In our family papers, there was mention of a place called Boscombe, but I can't seem to locate this town?
Thanks so much again!

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Monday 10 March 14 03:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much davidft. I appreciate the possible links that you have suggested and amazed you have uncovered so much information! It is more than I hoped for and now I have something to follow up with a cousin who is also interested in this line.

Perhaps the Hays and Nesbit families have come from Scotland since  Tweedmouth is so close to the border. I have not heard of the non-conformist register so thank you for mentioning that as well!


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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Friday 07 March 14 16:24 GMT (UK)  »
"Phiddlewriss is just a transcription error, the name is correctly Middlemiss"

Ah, thank you davidft   I misunderstood

Thank you also kgarrad, I'll research Middlemiss further on FreeReg and Family Search

Cheers,
Sandy

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Friday 07 March 14 16:00 GMT (UK)  »
THANK YOU so much DAVIDFT - Yes, it makes sense that Jane's mother's birth cannot have been in 1791.  We had no idea that Phiddlewriss was converted to Middlemiss. This is fascinating! I wonder if all Middlemiss' were originally Phiddlewriss or if this was just a one-time sloppy transcription.

Does the Census go back further or are there other records in Northumberland that I can check?
I must check the origin of Phiddlewriss. Perhaps Scottish?

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / 1791 Census or Parish records?
« on: Thursday 06 March 14 04:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I am researching my G G Grandmother Jane Middlemiss Born 1819 in Branxton, Northumberland
Died 1909 in Ford, Northumberland - she was married to my G G Grandfather William Gray Born 1813 in Ford, Northumberland, Died 1889 in Ford.

My cousin found a 1791 birth for Jane Middlemiss' mother, also named Jane. I have nothing else to go on for either Jane.

Is there someone who can look up births/deaths in pre-1800 Branxton or Ford or Glendale areas?
Thank you!

Sandon
Canada

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Northumberland / Re: GRAY family from Ford, Northumberland
« on: Tuesday 01 October 13 02:36 BST (UK)  »
Oh yes! Mary Gatrell has come up before in communication with a second cousin in England, but we didn't know where she fit in. Thanks so much! It makes sense that Robert was married before Eva, since he was so old when he married her.
So, Robert and Mary had Willie and Margaret?  Then he and Eva had Neville b Nov 6 1900, and Dec 24, 1905 Gladys (my grandmother).

I will look at the birth records you have found for Jane and Elizabeth.  My cousin had thought that Jane was born in Branxston, Northumberland in 1819...?

Thanks you so much for finding these, you are so fast!!

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Northumberland / Re: GRAY family from Ford, Northumberland
« on: Tuesday 01 October 13 00:29 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much Carole !  I will check freebmd for more info.  I find I keep hitting walls because Gray is such a common name. Perhaps I should concentrate on Middlemiss first.   Sandy   ;)

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