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Somerset / Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« on: Friday 24 February 17 22:33 GMT (UK)  »
PS Martha Northover was born in Cerne Abbas 7 March 1760 - hence the need for a licence.  (She was most probably pregnant.)

Regards

Bruce42

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Somerset / Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« on: Friday 24 February 17 22:28 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks, but I have found nothing around that time.  One school of thought is that a typical male marrying age was 25 at this time, so putting a birth as around 1752, but nothing then either.

Two 'possibles' have clearly been followed rapidly by deaths of the same.

Of course, he may have been much older than his wife.  After a seven year apprenticeship, he had to be at least 21 and considerably more if he was an established cordwainer.

I think that he must have travelled the relatively long distance from Kingsbury to Cerne Abbas for raw materials; there were tanneries there and most probably a market for Cordovan leather from Spain.

Maybe Martha was the innkeeper's daughter.....

Many thanks for any ideas

Bruce42


PS Wiiliam Row(e) was/is a very common name further west in Cornwall especially but I have conscientiously avoided straying from Somerset; proof of an attachment to any one would be impossible.

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Somerset / Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« on: Friday 24 February 17 17:27 GMT (UK)  »
Following on from the above:

Re William Row from Kingsbury Episcopi, cordwainer, married by licence at Cerne Abbas in 1777.

Extensive searches have failed to show William Row's baptism.
His age was not given at death, poor, in 1791, in Kingsbury Episcopi.

All potential births of a William Row in Somerset have been of infant mortalities or too early a date.
Apprenticeship records were destroyed at Exeter in WW2.

Any help or ideas?

Bruce42

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1 more somerset name
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 16:18 GMT (UK)  »
It could be Rood.

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Hertfordshire / Re: Fensome/Butterfield
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 15:10 GMT (UK)  »
The Fensome's were still in Harpenden in 1940s/1950s.

Bruce42

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Hertfordshire / Re: Ivory of Harpenden
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 15:01 GMT (UK)  »
Probably of little interest re C19th - but in 1940s and 1950s, the Ivory family were farmers with a number of lorries/horse boxes.  Two of the Ivory brothers went to Hardenwick school in Harpenden and I drew in a boxing contest with one of them!
(Hardenwick moved to St Albans before closing)

Bruce42

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: AMY BENDALL
« on: Thursday 16 February 17 17:41 GMT (UK)  »
I think that I can fill in a few gaps!

Samuel Bendall b1811 Stroud, Gloucs = Eliza b1809
9 children including William Bendall b1838 Cheltenham - d1909 Cheltenham = Emma Cullis b1839 Cheltenham

They had 6 children Ernest, Reginald, George, Percy Ambrey Bendall (1873-1928 Birmingham) all born in Cheltenham, Alice born in Swansea and Hannah born Malvern.

Percy = Jane Hughes (1872-1949 Birmingham) married 1899 Birmingham.
They had 7 children Percy, Harold, Sydney, James, Elsie, Amy Hannah Bendall (1909 Birmingham – 1976 Cumbria), Emma.

Amy married in Birmingham in 1936 = Ebenezer Harold Hodgetts (1917-2001 East Dorset)
They had two children…

Best wishes

Bruce42

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Occupation Interests / Re: Cordwainer from Kingsbury Episcopi in Cerne Abbas
« on: Tuesday 14 February 17 17:31 GMT (UK)  »
Martha was Baptised in Cerne Abbas but William Row is a complete mystery re-Baptism.  The only candidates appear to have died in infancy.

I think that she was a Cerne Abbas landlord's daughter (?) and she had to marry in haste (hence the licence)!

He is likely to have travelled to and through Yeovil but less likely for her to have done so.

Many thanks
 
Bruce42

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Soutar in Angus in 19th century
« on: Tuesday 14 February 17 16:22 GMT (UK)  »
Extremely useful!

That little girl, Ann Winter Robbie, married David Ogilvy in 1878, and I am a direct descendent.

It is said that she went to school with John Brown, favourite ghillie of Queen Victoria.
A fine elegant statuesque lady of 5'11".
Known in the family as "Big Granny". 
[Her mother, Jane Soutar was "Little Granny" who died in 1928.]
Until married, she lived at Whitehaugh, Clova.
Survived 44 years after her husband's death, bringing up seven children and running 3000 acre farm.  The sheep on the farm were most probably the old white face breed, small and hardy with fine wool.  The local sheep in 21st century are still branded "OR" = Ogilvy Rottal.
Later at Crossmill where much of the family spent their holidays.
She died in 1936.

Best wishes

Bruce42

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