15th Reg. of Foot in Ireland c.1800

[fionnghal]

hullo listers,
i've got a Thomas Jackson who was a soldier in hte 15th of Foot.  He married an Elspet Ingram in Aberdeen in 1798, but he was serving in Ireland when their first daughter, Catherine, was born in 1801.  i appreciate the reasons for his being there but wonder how feasible it would be to find his records.  there were troops based in or around Aberdeen i think as much to keep Napoleon from landing as to keep us wild Scots under control 

we have no idea when or where our Thomas was born although he might be hte son of an earlier Aberdeen Thomas Jackson of McMaster's Co. & Beauclerk's Regiment, but until we have tracked down some more information on him, we can't go back that next step.  He was out of hte army and labouring in Aberdeen by hte birth of his next child in 1803 and died some time before 1841 .. place unknown

i've looked up all sorts of sites to track down hte movements of hte 15th, but so far i've only found the barest details and those referring mostly to their major battles abroad.

any help gratefully accepted
le durachd
fionnghal

[liverpool annie]

The East Yorkshire Regiment (The Duke of York's Own)

The Regiment was raised 22nd June 1685 and soon saw service in Scotland and Flanders. In 1702 the 15th Foot formed part of Marlborough's Army and took part in the battles of Blenheim, Ramillies, Malpaquet and Oudenarde. The Regiment served in the West Indies and, after a brief return to England, played a major part in the defeat of the French for the conquest of Canada. The mourning worn for the loss of General Wolfe at the Heights of Abraham was perpetuated in the black background to the silver rose of the collar dogs worn by The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire for many years.

The 15th Foot fought in the war of American Independence from 1776 to 1778. At the Battle of Brandywine in 1777 the 15th ran short of ball ammunition so all but the best shots fired small powder charges only. the bluff succeeded and the battle was won and the Regiment gained the nickname "The Snappers".

In 1790 the Regiment returned to the West Indies for another six years; of 102 accompanying wives, only seven returned to England. In 1809 the Regiment returned to repulse the French from Martinique and Guadeloupe.

1817 - 1858
At the commencement of the Seven Years' War the regiment was employed in the Rochefort Expedition, and afterwards took, part in the siege and capture of the famous French Transatlantic stronghold of Louisburg, Cape Breton - the so - called "Dunkirk of the West." From Louisburg it went to Quebec with Wolfe, who specially commended the steadiness of the regiment in one of the preliminary affairs at Montmorenci. It fought in the great battle on the heights of Abraham, and after Wolfe's fall served at the defence of Quebec, and with the force sent against Montreal under General Murray, which completed the conquest of the Canada's. Next, it was at the capture of Martinique, and it the siege and conquest of the Havana in 1762, and was quartered for eleven months in Cuba, thence proceeding to New York, and afterwards back to Canada, where it served many years.

In 1776 the Fifteenth, then at home, went out with Lord Cornwallis to North Carolina, and made the American Campaigns of 1776-8 under Howe and Clinton. In the latter Year it went to the West Indies.

In 1827 the Fifteenth went to Canada, and served there until 1840, a period embracing the political riots at Quebec and Montreal in 1832 (suffering heavily in the visitation of Asiatic cholera), as well as the insurrection in Lower Canada in 1837-8.

The first battalion was sent out to North America at the time of the "Trent*" difficulty in 1861. It served there and in Bermuda until 1870, when it returned home.

[liverpool annie]

15th Foot movements!

1799 England
1800 Ireland
1802 Ireland
1802 disbanded
1804.07
2nd Battalion, 15th Regiment of Foot
re-formed at Scarborough
1804 England
1811 Channel Islands: Jersey
1814 Channel Islands: Jersey
1816.01.25
disbanded in Guernsey
1858.02.19
2nd Battalion, 15th Regiment of Foot
re-formed
1858 England
1859 Malta
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This is a list of the British involvements

French Revolutionary Wars, 1793-1802
Flanders, 1793-1795
Mediterranean, 1793-1800
West Indies, 1794-1798
India, 1793
Brittany, 1795
Cape of Good Hope, 1795
Fishguard, 1797
Irish Rebellion, 1798
Helder Campaign, 1799
French & Spanish Coast, 1800
Denmark, 1801
Egypt, 1801
Napoleonic Wars, 1803-1815
West Indies, 1803-1805
Germany, 1805-1806
Italy & Mediterranean, 1806-1814
Cape of Good Hope, 1806
Denmark, 1807
South America, 1807
Egypt, 1807
Portuguese Macao, 1808
Peninsular War, 1808-1814
West Indies, 1809-1815
Walcheren, 1809
Dutch East Indies, 1810-1816
Germany, 1813
American War, 1812-1815
Holland, 1813-1814
Waterloo (100 Days), 1815

Annie

[fionnghal]

oh, Annie, thanks a million.     it looks as if our Thomas Jackson probably left the army because it disbanded.   how interesting.  i'll need to try and find if there are any records referring to the 1802 disbanding and if they contain the names of hte soldiers.  i know some records from this period exist and folk have been able to get an amazing amount of data on individuals - down to hair colour even, but i've no idea if this is possible for members of hte 15th. 

any suggestions as to where i should look?

ceud mile taing .. 100,000 thanks   
le durachd
fionnghal

[liverpool annie]

You may be able to get some records from TNA

http://www.mod.uk/contacts/army_records.htm

A lot of them were destroyed during the Blitz - but you may be lucky!!

Annie 

PS He could also have transfered to another regiment .... !!

[fionnghal]

i believe he did leave the army then … for a bit anyway.  His 2nd daughter was born in Aberdeen in 1803 but there is a 4 year gap till the 3rd one, so i suppose he could have been elsewhere in between times.  At the time of both these ABD-based baptisms, however, he's described as being a labourer.  If his wife had 2 small children she may have chosen to remain at home hence the gap.    Of course, he may also have been in a different regiment prior to joining the 15th! 

The 15th's presence in Ireland 1800-1802 is great as it ties in with the 1st daughter’s birth there   

I’d made a really daft calculation .. well, someone else did - though it usually is me .. and reckoned that if he is the Thomas Jackson that was buried in ABD in 1835 .. and there is good reason to believe he is .. that would mean he was born c.1852. [we'd him being b.c.1842!  serves me right for not double checking  ]

Anyway, that puts him in line for possibly being the son [unproven yet] of a Janet Snowie & Thomas Jackson, soldier in McMaster's Company, Beauclerk's Regiment.  They married in Aberdeen in 1853.   
I've found out that Beauclerk's became the 19th Foot.  It was still referred to as Beauclerk's on their wedding lines although i understand that the name had changed a year or two previously ... names and traditions change slowly. 

I’ve done a rundown on his life, as we know it, in the RootsChat Aberdeen list under "Thomas JACKSON, soldier, 1700s" in the hope that someone might recognize the family.  Unfortunately he only had 3 kids and at least one didn't marry.  That reduces the chances of folk researching him!   you want great big families all having big families, and lots of sons, in order to find a few downline researchers 

anyway, do you know anything about this Beauclerk's Reg / 19th.   you had such a lot on the 15th.  is it an interest of yours?

as with the 15th, i've only been able to find the barest details.  it would be handy to know whereabouts they were around the 1750s in the hope of perhaps tracking down our Thomas's birth.

Do you know if the 15th and for that matter, the 19th were recruiting in Aberdeen in the mid to late 1700s?  I'm not sure how these things work or how i would find out.   I know these regiments spent some time doing their worst up here in Scotland trying to tame us wild Scots  but i've found nothing that mentions them being in Scotland at the relevant periods -- perhaps it was just for recruiting and training.   

thanks for the link.  I’ll have a look at that   

le dùrachd
fionnghal

[liverpool annie]

Brief History of the 19th Regiment of Foot

1688 - In November, the nineteenth line infantry regiment of the British Army was formed. At this time the regiment was known by the surname of its Colonel - Lutrell's Regiment.

1690 - July battle of the Boyne saw the regiment's first active service

1695 - present at the siege of Namur

1709 - On September 11th, earned its first battle honour at Malplaquet, Flanders during the campaigns of the Duke of Marlborough in 1707-1714 during the War of the Spanish Succession.

1744 - The regiment took the nickname of Green Howards in Flanders during the Wars of the Austrian Succession. As there were two regiments each commanded by a Colonel Howard, both being known as Howard's Regiment. To avoid confusion, the 3rd Foot (Thomas Howard) was named the Buff Howards, and the 19th Foot (Charles Howard) the Green Howards after the colour of their regimental facings worn on the collar and cuffs. From then on the Regiment were also knwon by the nickname of "The Green Howards".

1745-1747 - King George's War - Battles of Fontenoy, Roucoux, and Lauffeldt

1751 - In July, the naming of regiments after the surname of the Colonel was dropped to be replaced by the numbering system. From this date it was called the 19th Regiment of Foot.

1761 - Battle of Belleisle (Seven Years War)

1781-1782 - American War of Independence. Present at the Battles of Quinby Bridge, and Shubrick's Plantation, and Eutaw Springs.

1782 - The Regiment first became associated with, and affiliated to, the North Riding of Yorkshire when it was granted the title of "The 19th (First Yorkshire North Riding Regiment) of Foot".

1854 - The Crimean War breaks out. Regiments sees action at the Alma, Inkerman and Sebastopol.

1873 - Richmond in Yorkshire became the Regiment's home town.

1920 - "The Green Howards" became the official title of the Regiment.

Here's the Regimental Museum where they may be able to give you some information - I'll try and get the right site for you!!


Green Howards Museum, Richmond

Green Howards Collection
Green Howards (Alexandra, Princess of Wales’s Own Yorkshire Regiment)
Alexandra, Princess of Wales’s Own Regiment of Yorkshire
Princess of Wales’s Own (Yorkshire Regiment)
19th (1st Yorkshire North Riding)(The Princess of Wales’s Own)
19th(1st Yorkshire North Riding) Regiment of Foot
19th Regiment of Foot
Beauclerk's Regiment
Howard's Regiment
Sutton's Regiment
Erle's Regiment
Colonel Luttrell’s Companies of Foot
North Riding Rifle Volunteer Corps
Princess of Wales's Own Yorkshire Regiment Territorial Battalions
Princess of Wales's Own Yorkshire Regiment Volunteer Battalions
North Yorkshire Regiment of Militia
North Yorkshire Light Infantry Regiment of Militia
North Yorkshire Rifles (Militia
Princess of Wales's Own (Yorkshire Regiment) Militia

http://www.greenhowards.org.uk/html-files/museum.htm

 

Annie

[fionnghal]

gosh, that was quick 
ta muchly

le durachd 
fionnghal