Walston Essex - Emily Sarah Heard

[kamakaziken]

HI,
can anybody help me with a couple of problems please.

I have discovered that my grandfathers mother was originally called Emily Sarah HEARD who was born In WALSTON Essex around 1858/59. She is shown on the 1901 census at 14 Beaumont Road Leyton (Essex) aged 42 years.

She originally married someone called Patmore and had a son. This son is listed on the 1901 census as "Patmore" Newing (no Christian names) at 14 Beaumont Road Leyton (Essex)

My grandfather (William George Newing) was born in 1896 also at Beaumont Road Leyton (Essex) his father was George William Newing, from Barham Kent.

Can anybody give me any leads to  Emily Heard, her original marriage, her son "Patmore" or the villiage of Walston Essex, as I have "hit the wall" and need some new leads to get stuck into.

Appreciate any help or suggestions.
Thanks.
kamakaziken

[Nicky]

This could be her from the 1871 census

Emily Heard 12  Earls Colne, Essex, England Daughter  Earls Colne  Essex   
Fredrick Heard 9  Earls Colne, Essex, England Son  Earls Colne  Essex   
Henry Heard 11  Earls Colne, Essex, England Son  Earls Colne  Essex   
Sarah Heard 38  Earls Colne, Essex, England Head  Earls Colne  Essex   
Walter Heard 16  Earls Colne, Essex, England Son  Earls Colne  Essex 

RG10/1698 Folio 45. Page 15

Hope this helps

Nicky

[Nicky]

This is a possibility for the 1881 census

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  Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Charles SHERIDAN   Head   M   Male   30   Walthamstow, Essex, England   Chimney Sweep     
 Sarah SHERIDAN   Wife   M   Female   25   Walthamstow, Essex, England       
 Charles SHERIDAN   Son   U   Male   3   Walthamstow, Essex, England       
 Elizth. SHERIDAN   Daur   U   Female   1   Walthamstow, Essex, England       
 James SHERIDAN   Brother In Law   U   Male   14   Walthamstow, Essex, England       
 Charles PATMORE   Lodger   M   Male   28   Essex, England   Bricklayer     
 Sarah PATMORE   Lodger   M   Female   25   Essex, England       


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   5 Keats Cottages
  Census Place Leyton, Essex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341414
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1725 / 123
  Page Number   36
 
Nicky

[kamakaziken]

HI,
thanks Nicky, I am sure the 1871 info is correct, but not sure about the 1881. Think if Emily is using Sarah and she is 25 it will make here a bit too old.

Thanks so much for your efforts on my behalf, it has given me a new thread to look at.

Any suggestions on how I can find out if her first marriage was disolved or if her husband died?
Also still have the problem of trying to find the Christian names of their offspring "Patmore".
Thanks again.
Ken   

[Clincher]

Do you think that 'Walston' might be a mistranscription/mishearing of Walthamstow or even Walton?
I have heard of the surname 'Walston'. A family of that name owned/owns lots of land in Essex and East Anglia

[kated]

Hi,

I have them in Earls Colne in 1861 RG9 1111 32
William HEARD head Mar 29 Carpenter / journeyman Essex Earls Colne
Sarah HEARD Wife Mar 28 Straw Plaiter Do Whites COlne
Walter HEARD Son 6 do Ealrs Colne
Emily HEARD Daur 2 do do
Henry HEARD son 1 do do

regards

Kate

[kamakaziken]

Hi Kate,
thank you so much for that info from the 1861 you are a real life safer.
I think Walston is a registration district for Earls Colne and is a "Red Herring"

Not sure if anyone can help me with the next difficulty concerning Emily,
Where is she in 1891? We know she is married to Charles Patmore and that the son (Patmore) is born around 1889, I think Charles died in 1891 and Emily went on the marry my g-grandfather (George William NEWING) in 1893
and my grandfathr (William George) is then born in 1896.
Can anyone help or come up with some suggestions as to where she might be found?

Thanks again Kate 

[sandiep]

Name:    Patmore, Charles George
Record Type:    Deaths
Age at death:    37
Quarter:    March
Year:    1891
District:    West Ham 
County:    Essex Greater London
Volume:    4a
Page:    139

do you think this could be when charles died?  sandie

[sandiep]

Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page
 
Patmore, Albert Charles 1889 March Dunmow Essex 4a 615
Patmore, Annie 1889 March Romford Essex 4a 370
Patmore, Claud Sydney 1889 March Braintree Essex 4a 604
Patmore, Ellen Emma 1889 March Braintree Essex 4a 590
Patmore, Ethel Jane 1889 June Epping Essex 4a 319
Patmore, Evelyn Annie 1889 March Bishops Stortford Essex Hertfordshire 3a 476
Patmore, Gertrude 1889 March Bishops Stortford Essex Hertfordshire 3a 470
Patmore, John Thomas 1889 March Romford Essex 4a 345
Patmore, Mabel 1889 June Dunmow Essex 4a 629
Patmore, Robert 1889 March Bishops Stortford Essex Hertfordshire 3a 467


these are all 1889 for essex   sandie