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1841lookup Woburn please...
« on: Tuesday 06 December 05 22:21 GMT (UK) »
 Hi

Can anyone see James Favel/Favell [email protected] place...unknown
  living in Woburn .He was in the village when he maried Jane Coleman in 1845 .Jane's parents were William and Mary (neeParslow).
 Any help would be great

               Thanks
                   Tazzie

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Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie

I couldn't see James in Woburn in 1841. However found the following:
HO107/005-39-2 Folio 14A
Bedford St, Woburn
William Coleman 35 ag lab
Mary Coleman 35
Jane 15; Elizabeth 10; Eliza 5; John 4; George 1

Folio 16b
Bedford St, Woburn
Fanny Coleman 75

All born in county

HO107/005-39-3 folio 11B
Thomas Favell 15 born in county
one of a number of males aged 15-9 living in the schoolmasters house. He may be a complete red herring, but was the only Favell in town.

In 1861 James gave his birthplace as Biggleswade Beds. Don't go away, I'll have a look there in 1841, but it's a bit bigger so may take a while.

Regards

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tazzie

Double failure!

Couldn't find James and while I was at it I looked for one of my missing Medlocks who was buried in Biggleswade in 1848. Couldn't find him either!

The only Favells that I saw in Biggleswade:
HO107/002-04 folio 18A
Sandpits, Biggleswade
Will Favell 65 no occupation quoted
Mary Favell 65
Both born in county

Sorry!

Regards

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 20:46 GMT (UK) »
David.

 Thank you for checking the possibles for me . Hadn't thought as far as Biggleswade . I think William Coleman's father was James Coleman as the family appear in Woburn rates book at 4 Bedford St from 1806-1809 (years so far transcribed).
  James gives his age as 20 on marriage in 1846 so may have to search the records held in the library in Leighton Buzzard as soon as I get chance.

                Thanks again

                 Tracy
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tracy

Do you have the 1851 and 1861 census details? If not I'll pull them off for you.

It might be useful to find the 1846 marriage entry to get James' father's name.

I can't trace any Favell baptisms in Biggleswade after 1807, although the parish registers have been extracted onto the IGI. The William and Mary who were there in 1841 had two early children, in 1799 and 1807, so seem to be a tad on the old side to be James' parents.

Regards

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 December 05 07:58 GMT (UK) »
Good morning David.

 Please the census details would be great. Do you think fathers details would be shown this early as I have some in Bucks 1840 that just say "with parents consent"? I agree it seems that the Biggleswade couple would be too old -he could just have been a very late baby!

           Thanks again

                              Tracy
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 December 05 08:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tracy

1851
HO107/1755 folio 50B
East St, Aspley Guise, Beds
James Favell head marr 26 Brazier born N.K.
Jane Favell wife 26 b Woburn
Elizabeth Favell dau 6 at home b Woburn
James Favell son 4 at home b Woburn
Elijah Favell son 2 at home b Woburn
Mary Ann Favell dau 6mths b Aspley, Beds

1861
RG9/1005 folio 89A
Blacksmiths shop, Lamsey?, Leighton Buzzard
James Favell head marr 36 tin plate worker journeyman b Biggleswade Beds
Jane Favell wife 36 b Woburn
Elizabeth Favell dau 15 plaiter b Woburn
James Favell son 14 plaiter b Woburn
Elijah Favell son 12 plaiter b Woburn
Mary  Favell dau 10 plaiter b Aspley
John Favell son 8 plaiter b Aspley
George Favell son 6 b Aspley
Isaac Favell son 4 b Leighton Buzzard
Henry Favell son 1 b Leighton Buzzard

1871
RG10/1561 folio 73
Lamsey Leighton Buzzard
Jane Favell head widow 46 plaiter b Woburn
Mary  A Favell dau unmarr 20 plaiter b Aspley Guise
John Favell son 18 lab in timber yard b Aspley Guise
George Favell son 15 ag lab b Aspley Guise
Isaac Favell son 14 lab in timber yard b Leighton
Henry Favell son 11 plaiter b Leighton
Charles Favell son 9 plaiter b Leighton
Ellen Favell dau 7 plaiter b Leighton
Eliza Favell dau 5 b Leighton

Marriages after July 1837 should have details of both fathers and their occupations.

Regards

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 December 05 08:33 GMT (UK) »
Great David .

 Thats them. So Elizabeth was living near her husband to be David Underwood in Lamsey. There was a few cottages here and various memebers of my family now seem to live in all of them. Must have got on well with the neighbours.
 I see on 1851 it says NK for where born -so I will have to chase those PR's.
 Was there 2 Mary Ann's age 6 months  (1851 & 1861)?

                   Thank you

         Tracy
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1841lookup Woburn please...
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 December 05 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, the original message got sent somehow before I'd finished it - I was having an instant message conversation with my daughter in Derby at the time. I've completed it now - I'd done a copy and paste to save typing and hadn't amended Mary when it got sent!

david
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell