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Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« on: Monday 12 December 05 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Help wanted please

Abraham Saunders (Head) 36 Belper Derbyshire and Elizabeth R Tabor (Boarder) 35 Deeping St James Lincolnshire I have found them on the 1881 census, Elizabeth having four children George,Robert,Adeliza and Mary that's the only information I have found has anyone any more info ie: are they his children? and did they ever marry and take his name?

thanks for any help you may give Nigel
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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 December 05 15:40 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 Elizabeth R "Taylor" and children George E (3) and Robert H (1) are living in Boston, Lincs. Elizabeth is 25 "Down Worker" and unmarried. RG10/3342 Folio 51 Page 15

Will look for Abraham and see where he is at this time....

Catherine  :)
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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 December 05 15:48 GMT (UK) »
1891 census:

RG12/2574/72/5 - 1 Banner Rd Court, Boston, Lincs
Abraham Saunders  Head  46  Nail Maker  b. Belper, Derbys
Elizabeth R Saunders  Wife  45  b. Cambridge
George E Tabor  Son-in-law  23  Brickmaker  b. Boston, Lincs
Mary Ann Sanders Tabor  Dau-in-law  14  (?)Penmaker  b. Boston, Lincs
John Tom Sanders Tabor  Son-in-law  9  Scholar  b. Boston, Lincs
Selina Sanders Tabor  Dau-in-law  6 Scholar  b. Boston, Lincs
Minnie Sanders  Dau  3  Scholar  b. Boston, Lincs

Mix of Saunders/Sanders as transcribed!

From Free BMD   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Jun 1885
  -   Boston 7a 754
ASKEW    Mary Jane       
ATKINSON    James        
SANDERS    Abraham        
TABOR    Elizabeth Rachel   
     

Will look for other children.

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 December 05 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Quite a few relevant births and deaths in Boston on Free BMD:

George Edward Tabor b. Jun Q 1867
Adeliza Elizabeth Tabor, b. Mar Q 1872, d. Sep Q 1887 aged 15
Selina Sanders Tabor b. Jun Q 1874, d. Sep Q 1874
Mary Ann S Tabor b. Sep Q 1876
Thomas Sanders Tabor b. Jun Q 1880, d. Sep Q 1880 aged 0
John Tom S Tabor b. Dec Q 1881
Selina Sanders Tabor b. Jun Q 1884

Some more as well, but can't be sure they're yours.

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 December 05 16:04 GMT (UK) »
hi it's now more confusing than ever in the 1881 census Elizabeth R,George E,Robert H,Adeliza E and Mary A are all boarders? then with what you have given me from the 1891 they are now in-laws?


thanks for your help Nigel
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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 December 05 16:08 GMT (UK) »
It means that Abraham and Elizabeth have married and they are now Abrahams sons and daughters (in law). step children in todays language.....

Cant find him in 1861 but think Ive found him in 1851. Back in a sec
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Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 December 05 16:11 GMT (UK) »
HO107/2144 Folio 636 Page 15
Chapel Hollow, Belper, Derbyshire
John Sanders 36 Nailmaker
Sarah 34
Mary Ann 15 Seamstress
Selina 13 Cotton Spinner
Abrm. (Abraham) 6 Scholar
Thomas 3 Scholar

All born Belper

Regards
Catherine
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 December 05 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Just found him -

1861 RG9/2509 Folio 19 Page 31
Baptist yard, Belper, Derbyshire
Abraham Sanders 16 boarder Nailmaker Belper
in house of
John and Mary Ann Hawkins and children

Regards
Catherine
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: Abraham Saunders Belper Derbyshire
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 December 05 15:00 GMT (UK) »
hi
thanks for the help I think I can make some sense of  it but I have another query Elizabeth Rachal's parents, father George Young Tabor born March Cambridgeshire and her mother Ann Williamson born Market Deeping Lincolnshire had another daughter Elizabeth's sister Mary Ann Tabor born 25 Dec 1832 who had a son George Tabor born 20 Oct 1855 in Bourne Workhouse and  later raised by George and Ann above he is my wifes greatgrand-father but I would like to know what happened to his Mary Ann? No husband mentioned on his birth certificate or later on his marriage certificate either?

thanks Nigel :) Merry Xmas  :)
Tabor-Bourne,Bannister-Bourne,Birch-Bourne/Quadring Euadyke,Stevens-Surfleet,Smith-Surfleet,Green-Wigtoft,Holmes-Yorkshire
Moisey-Bourne,Lyon-Lincolnshire
Mayer/Priestley
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