Alexander Hay of Ballygrainey, Bangor

[Colinm]

Researching ALEXANDER HAY (1763-1841) and his wife ELIZABETH RUSSELL (1765-1821) of BALLYGRAINEY, near BANGOR.  It’s very possible that they had a son ARCHIBALD HAY (died 1875) who married MARY RUSSELL of BALLYHOLM, BANGOR.  Some of this couple’s children went to New Zealand and some remained in Ireland. I’m descended from James who remained and married JANE MANSON of COTTOWN. Their daughter AGNES is my Grandmother

[Siobhan1]

Hi
I am sorry for bothering you but I was interested in this post.
ARCHIBALD HAY who married MARY RUSSELL  as you said had some children.  They had a daughter Elizabeth, who married a James Palmer on the 23rd of November 1857 in Newtownards, she is my 2nd Great Grandmother, and they went on to have 6 children.
Most of these children were born in Scotland when James and Elizabeth moved to a small village near Stranraer.

Siobhan Palmer

[Colinm]

Siohban.........please check your personal messages.............Colin.

[Sunnyhill]

Hi Colin
How've you been? Good to see you're making some progress. If you can sort out my Hayes while you're at it......

I am getting a researcher to work on them for me so may have some new info soon.

Cheers

David C

Australia

[Sunnyhill]

EDIT: These are not related to my Hayes. This family from Scotland originally from Carrickfergus


1 James  Hayes
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Birth: 
Occ:   Farmer; Cotton Card Sharper [1866]; Carding Master [1859]
Father:   Archibald Hayes (1790-)
Mother:   Helen Mitchell

Archibald Hay son of James Gordon Hay, 24 Oswald St. Glasgow, Cotton Card Sharper, and Margaret Hay, nee Duffy, born 26 April 1866, Date of marriage 5th Sept 1859 in Paisley.

James G Hay, Thornhill, age 26, Carding Master, and Margaret Duffy, Elderslie Abbey Parish, age 26, Millworker, married in Elderslie Church of Scotland, on 09 Sep 1859, according to the forms of the Church of Scotland. James was the son of Archibald Hay, (unable to make out occupation) Deceased and Helen Hay, nee Mitchell.  Margaret was the daughter of Peter Duffy, a labourer, deceased, and Mary Duffy, deceased.
 
 

Spouse:   Margaret Duffy
Birth:   1833, Glasgow??
Father:   Peter Duffy (-1859)
Mother:   Mary (-1859)
Marr:   5th Sept 1859, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland

[Colinm]

Hi David,
   That's great info.  I'm sure your line is originally from the Killinchy Hays.  For a while I used to think mine were too but as I now know they were in and around Ballygrainey back in the 1700's.  Some of my Mansons ended up in Scotland and many of my wife's family moved there in the 1800's for work.  Good luck....Colin.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

in case its of interest the Ros Davies website includes
Archibald HAY . ? will probated 1839; executor was J. McKee of Forethill IIW #30556
Archibald HAY . Bangor of Gransha; leased a house & 10 acres in 1863 from John W. Maxwell  GV
Robert HAY . Bangor in Ballymconnell; leased 7 acres in 1863 from John W. Maxwell  GV
Robert HAY . Bangor husband of Margaret McClelland; father of Mary b. 18 Feb 1874 CR
and no doubt more info, good luck, Jim
 

[FionaLorraine]

Dear Siobhan

I am interested in the Palmer line here - I see from my notes that James may have been a ploughman.  Do you know if they had a connection with any of the following?  Antrim or Crumlin town, railways, McCracken or Barr family especially in Scotland?  He was born about 1837 around the time that I am searching for a James Palmer.  Would you know the name of his father any chance?  There is another marriage I have of:

Elizabeth robinson /PALMER/ and Robert Hayes.

Hi
I am sorry for bothering you but I was interested in this post.
ARCHIBALD HAY who married MARY RUSSELL  as you said had some children.  They had a daughter Elizabeth, who married a James Palmer on the 23rd of November 1857 in Newtownards, she is my 2nd Great Grandmother, and they went on to have 6 children.
Most of these children were born in Scotland when James and Elizabeth moved to a small village near Stranraer.

Siobhan Palmer

[Sunnyhill]

Just on my post above, the Scottish connections turned out to be incorrect - in fact they [the Scottish Hays] are connected to a Carrickfergus family but have similar birthdates and identical names with an Archibald, son of James and grandson of another Archibald!