Lookup request 1841 census - Hannah Bradley (nee Martin) b Sileby 1811-1814

[meme]

Following up on a clue provided by Mike - I'd like a 1841 list of members of the household which included Hannah Bradley (b Hannah Martin, Sileby 1811-14).

Also any baptismal or banns information from Sileby for Hannah Martin.

Thanks again.

Geoff

[lushbrown]

hi geoff ,i have a copy of sileby parish reg vol iv transcribed by eric c wheeler 2003, page 69 has baptisms ad 1809 march 6 hannah daughter of john and elizabeth martin,the register is for st marys church sileby,hope this helps,elaine

[meme]

It does - MANY thanks, Elaine.

The issue I've run up against time & again is the multitude of Martins in Sileby and all with the same set of names (Johns, Daniels, etc.).

Your piece of information seems to corroborate John & Elizabeth Martin as my greatx3 grandparents.

Geoff

[krisesjoint]

HO107/0593 Folio 16/12 Page 17
Church Lane
Sileby

BRADLEY Thomas 30 Y (Yes born in County) Ag Lab
BRADLEY Hannah 30 Y
BRADLEY James 10 Y
BRADLEY Matilda 8 Y
BRADLEY Jane 4 Y
BRADLEY Eliza 2 Y

may be of interest that next door is the family

MARTIN John 30 Y J W Knitter
MARTIN Catherine 30
MARTIN Harriett 9 Y
MARTIN Charles 6 Y
MARTIN Mary 3 Y
MARTIN Eliza 1 Y

This could be parents but alas it is so faded I really cant read it. I think Elizabeth is 55 second letter appears to be a 5

HO107/0593 Folio 16/12 Page 17
King Street
Sileby

MARTIN John 60 Y
MARTIN Elizabeth 55 Y
MARTIN Elizabeth Y (Sorry cant read age)

on a roll now..lol...here are the other families

HO107/0593 Folio 16/11 Page 14
Church Lane
Sileby

MARTIN Daniel 50 Y J W Knitter
MARTIN Mary 45 Y
MARTIN Thomas 15 Y J W Knitter
MARTIN Henry 11 Y
MARTIN Rebecca 8 Y

HO107/0593 Folio 16/27 Page 9
Bank Street
Sileby

MARTIN Robert 25 Y Ag lab
MARTIN Elizabeth 30 Y
UNDERWOOD Jane 6


Thats all the Martins now...Hope it helps....Cheers Kris 

 

[meme]

Wow, thanks for all of that Kris!

Now I'm intrigued.  The kids' names sort of fit and Hannah's age fits, but in 1851 she is apparently married to Richard Bradley.  Coincidence?  Name change?  Widowed and remarried to brother-in-law?  More and more interesting!

Thanks also for the John and Elizabeth Martin lead.  I thought that they had left Sileby by 1841 ... now to rewrite the hypothetical history.

Geoff

[lushbrown]

hi geoff,don,t know if this helps regarding richard bradley or makes more confusing,from sileby parish reg vol iv by eric wheeler p122
burial-matilda daughter of richard bradley(abode sileby,labourer)feb 12 1845 age 10 yrs ceremony performed by john dudley.there are no other bradley baptisms or burials but the only years covered are 1765-1812 and burials 1843-1846.there are several martin entries would you like me to list them for you,elaine

[krisesjoint]

Strange Geoff, You had me wondering if I boobooed so rechecked but it most definately does say Thomas. Now with the Burial provided by Elaine along with the fact that it is Richard in 1851 makes me think the man was probably Richard Thomas/Thomas Richard and used one or other depending on his mood. With Matilda dau of Richard and then Richard in 1851 there do not appear to be 2 men at all but only one who cant decide what his name is....LOL.......All the best.....Kris 

[meme]

Probably just as well we don't have Henry as a third name, Kris - we'd be trying to sort out if he was a Tom, Dick or Harry! 

Richard is recorded as being born in Notts (1851 census) but Thomas is shown as born in the county (1841 census).  It is possible that Thomas died late 1841-1842 (thus falling outside the burials data) and Hannah remarried.  The question then is whether at the burial of Matilda in 1845, the name of her natural or step-father would be recorded.  I bow to any advice on this.

There's now an explanation why 'Matilda' appears as an 8 yo in the 1841 census and a 3 yo in 1851.  They are different children. Matilda I died in 1845, Matilda II was born in 1848 and given the same name.

Elaine, if it's not too much trouble, the Martin baptism/burial entries could prove useful, if only for a new lead or to confirm a theory (or to destroy it!)

Thanks to both of you for your assistance.

Geoff

[lushbrown]

hi geoff, regarding richard and thomas bradley mystery ,the igi has matilda bradley christening 16 dec 1834 saint mary silebyparents richard and hannah bradley .Also richard bradley marriage 11 oct 1830 sileby.Maybe his name was Richard Thomas and he was known to his family as thomas but gave his official name of richard at his marriage and children,s baptisms.perhaps he was not home and his wife gave his name as thomas.
other martin info
1801 dec 1 james son of john and elizabeth martin.-bapt
1812 aug 31 lydia daughter of john and elizabeth martin-bapt
1812 dec 8 lydia daughter john martin -burial
1803 jul 24 john son of john and elizabeth martin bapt.
1845 july 21 catharine wife john martin fwk sileby burial age 35
1845 aug 19 thomas son john martin sileby burial infant.
hope this helps thre are about 50 entries for martins i have tried to pick those that relate to the info on the earlier posts,good luck with your puzzle,elaine