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THOMAS CLEAVER
« on: Thursday 12 January 06 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Iam related to thomas cleaver age 43 of cheltenham glousester i have info on him his wife ann age 42  from barton oxford thier children william age 18 barton oxford who i cannot trace charles my gggrandfather age 16 on the 1881 census was living in enstone oxford a henry age 14 who i cannot trace then comes under chipping norton oxford also mary age11 chipping norton james age 8 lucy age6 and finally albert age 1 all chipping none of these i cannot trace my ggreat grand father charles moved from england to live in wales i would be grateful of any help finding on any of the named above .

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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 January 06 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

All these people appear on the 1881 census so when you say you canot trace them - do you mean on the 1891 and 1901 census??

Are you trying to trace them further backwards as well?

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 January 06 23:34 GMT (UK) »
I am really struggling with this family in 1891.

So far I have found this which gives correct year of birth for Ann so it may be her

Cleaver, Ann
Death Quarter ending December 1888
Chipping Norton
Vol 3a
Page 498
Age at death: 49

 
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 January 06 23:53 GMT (UK) »
I have found Charles on the 1901 census with his family in Wales. Do you have this?

Click on the reply button at the top of this request to answer.

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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi


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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 January 06 00:05 GMT (UK) »
I have also found 4 other Cleavers born Chipping Norton all living in Wales in 1901. All in Glamorgan. Their ages are all a couple of years out but I feel this is too much of a co-incidence for them not to be your family.

Do you know if many of them also went to Wales
I will wait to hear from you

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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 January 06 16:06 GMT (UK) »
 Iam trying to trace Thomas Cleaver back before 1881

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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 January 06 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanx  trisha
            for the info on ann  i am trying to trace thomas cleaver before the 1881 census i also found charles in the 1901 census with his family also i cannot trace thomas and the rest of the family in the 1901 census so i donot know if they all moved to wales only my great grand father charles

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 January 06 17:30 GMT (UK) »
1871 census

New Chapel, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire

Thomas Cleaver, age 33 Cord Winder-Wool, born Cheltenham Gloucs
Ann wife age 32, Cord Winder, Wool, born Barton Oxfordshire
William son age 8 born Barton Oxfordshire
Charles, son age 6 born Barton Oxfordshire
Henry son age 4 born Enstone Oxfordshire
Annie E dau age 2 born Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire

RG10/1457  Chipping Norton Folio 68 Page 50

Can't see Annie E on 1881
 
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: THOMAS CLEAVER
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 January 06 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Can't spot Thomas in 1861 but here he is with parents and siblings in 1851.

1851 census

Clevely, Chipping North Oxfordshire

John Cleaver Head age 41 Cordwainer born Daventry Northamptonshire
Mary wife age 35 born Woodstock Oxon
Mary dau age 16 born Enstone Oxon
Thos son age 13 born Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Martha dau age 11 Sunday Scholar born Lystone Oxon
Charles son age 9 Sunday Scholar born Enstone Oxon
William son age 6 Sunday Scholar born Clevely Oxon
Ruth dau age 4 born Clevely Oxon
James son age 2 born Clevely
Henry son age 2 months

HO107/1732 Chipping Norton Folio 570 Page 10

Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi