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Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« on: Saturday 28 January 06 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I have a twin set of inter-mingled brick walls, namely a William Ruickbie and a James Ruickbie.

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Regarding William:

I have been trying for some time now, without any success at all, to establish the parents of William Ruickbie who married Isabel Tait on July 24, 1772 in Innerleithen. I know nothing on Isabel either. They had at least 3 children – Agnes 1773-?, John c1779 -1868, and William 1783-?.

William did also marry Lilias Euman on May 21, 1798, again in Innerleithen. They had only one daughter, to my knowledge – Elizabeth 1800 - 1880. I am aware of Lilias’ ancestors.

I have totally scoured all available on line data available at Scotlands People and IGI, published MI’s, etc.

I do have extracts of all relative OPRs and SR registers and I do have all information regarding children John and Elizabeth and their descendants. (Agnes and William jr. are a mystery)

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Regarding James:

James Ruickbie (c1757-c1828) was a borders poet who, in his last years, was the Innkeeper of the Harrow Inn on High Street in Hawick. He had 3 books published in 1807, 1815, and 1826. His poems also appeared in several other multiple author compilations (one being “Hawick Sings and Song Writers” - all 3 editions) and one reprint of the 1826 - through to the late 1800’s.

It is said that he came from Innerleithen.

He (listed as James Rubie) married Margaret Gounlock May 30 1787 in Selkirk.

I have found records of one daughter- Margaret born circa 1792, she married Robert Govenlock who was the Innkeeper of the Mosspaul Inn for many years. I have never found her birth record.

Prior to coming to Hawick James served as the toll-keeper at Colterscleugh for 12 years and also at a few other toll-bars.

His writings indicate he had more than one child (possibly 3).

The writings of his many poet friends, and biographies in The Border Magazine, and in the transactions of the Hawick Archeology Society indicate he had two wives, that he MAY have died either in 1828 or 1829 at an un-confirmed age of 72, and that he possibly is buried at St.Mary’s Church in Hawick in an unmarked grave.

I strive to find more concrete information concerning James, his wives, their parents, and other children (I have traced his daughter Margaret forward).

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The name Ruickbie is very rare, and always has been. The name does have its roots in Innerleithen, Newlands, and Traquair. The name has always been misspelled horrendously over time.

I believe that William and James are very closely related, perhaps brothers. But – no iron clad proof.

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This is the most likely parental scenario, but I can’t prove it, and the birth date for James does not match closely enough that within his biography:

ALEX RIGBEE
Spouse: BESSIE TAITT
Marriage: 23 MAY 1742 Innerleithen, Peebles, Scotland
Children:
GILBERT RUGBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 03 APR 1743 Innerleithen, Peebles, Scotland
ISOABLE RUGBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 MAR 1744 Innerleithen, Peebles, Scotland
WILLIAM RUGEBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 AUG 1746 Innerleithen, Peebles, Scotland
MARGRAT RUGBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 SEP 1749 Innerleithen, Peebles, Scotland
JAMES RUGEBY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 NOV 1752 Innerleithen, Peebles, Scotland
(I can not find anything on any of these people after the above dates)

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William did write poems as well, in fact he has one in his son John’s published book.

I am convinced that the single most important key to the puzzle is to establish, with proof, James’ and William’s year of birth - by more than third party biographies (such as that done on James). A secondary target is proof on the actual death year of James as his final 1826 book’s last poem is written by another poet and reads more like a eulogy than a tribute.

Being from Canada my search options are limited to on line sources, or books printed concerning the people and history of Innerleithen, Hawick, etc. and surrounding area families.

Any helpful information, suggestions, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

LarryR

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Re: Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 January 06 21:09 GMT (UK) »


Hi Larry and welcome to RootsChat!

I found this photograph - but now I think about it - it's probably one of yours .....  ::)

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Re: Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 January 06 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie,

Yes it is a "Harrow Inn" - but James' Harrow Inn was demolished to make way for the Royal Bank of Scotland in the mid 1880's.

This one also is not in Hawick.

Cheers,

LarryR

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Re: Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 January 06 01:41 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought Larry
although it is probably a line you have already tried.

The alternate of ROUGVIE which is slightly more common in Lothian and in Fife.

At least posting the name here may attract attention and possibly results.

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Re: Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 January 06 01:47 GMT (UK) »


You probably already know theres " Ruickbie's " in Idaho!

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Re: Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 January 06 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought Larry
although it is probably a line you have already tried.

The alternate of ROUGVIE which is slightly more common in Lothian and in Fife.

At least posting the name here may attract attention and possibly results.

Russell

Hi Russel,

Thanks for responding, and yes it is a good idea.

I did at one point fan out from Peebles and did a fair amount chasing names such as you mention, plus Robie, Rubie, Rickerby and many sound-a-likes. But - little came of it with no seeming connections.

I did however see some possible light in Aberdeenshire in the 1600's..

Regards,

LarryR

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Re: Ruickbie Poet Brickwall
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 January 06 11:56 GMT (UK) »


You probably already know theres " Ruickbie's " in Idaho!

Annie  :D

Hi again Annie,

Yes I was aware of a Ruickbie in Idaho.

But sadly this single member went there, fought for the US in WWI, returned and died alone to be buried in an unmarked grave.

Here's his story:

Regarding a James Fowler Ruickbie                     
                        
Ellis Island, New York arrivals list: - a J Ruicklue (not Ruickbie) arriving in 1910 at approx 30 years of age, with a stated residence of Edingurgh, Scotland                     
                        
Lincoln County, Idaho World War 1 civilian draft registration records list a:      Ruickbie, James Fowler      
   Born 3, Oct 1881      
   Citizen of Scotland      
                        
Richfield, Lincoln, Idaho 1920 Page:4A ED: 190 lists him as single & a clerk in a grocery store                        
                        
Ellis Island, New York arrivals list: - a James Fowler Ruiskbie (not Ruickbie) was arriving in 1924 at 41 years of age with a stated residence of Richfield, Idaho.   
                        
Richfield, Lincoln, Idaho 1930 Page:2A Enumeration District 4 - lists him as single & a laborer                        
                        
Rootsweb.com Death records list:                        
   Ruickbie, James Fowler               
   Record no. 01493               
   Death: 5, April, 1948 at Shoshone, Idaho         
                        
Idaho Death Index, 1911-1953:                        
Ruickbie, James Fowler 1948 Lincoln SHOSHONE 04/05/1948 10/03/1881 001493                     
                        
Cemetery record on net for Shoshone Cemetery, Lincoln County, Idaho list: Ruickbie, James P. (not F.) - no stone, Lot No 15-15            
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But hey - thanks for trying to help - I really do appreciate the effort.

Regards,

LarryR