1900/1910 Street Directory Belfast & Whiteabbey

[Mollyrose]

Would like to know the  christian names of the McNeills who lived in 22 Glenpark Street, Belfast. in 1900/1910
also if the Butler family (John, Peter, Harry, Sarah, Mary.) lived in Whiteabbey in 1870 -1890. Would be very grateful for any info no matter how little. Thanks

[GaryOB]

Hi MollyRose

Couple of useful references in "Glenravel Online" timelines.  This is a collection of newspaper extracts.

July 1885 - "John Maloney and John Butler were charged with violently assaulting William Murray on the Shore Road, with an iron bar and a poker.  They were remanded."

The Shore Road runs from Belfast along the North shore of the Belfast Lough and eventually goes through Whiteabbey towards Carrick.  It not clear what part of the Shore Road this story refers.

Dec 1896 - "Nancy and Mary Jane Butler were accused on the wilful murder of a female child in Ballycastle.  Dr McIlroy concluded that the child was newborn and had suffocated. The two prisoners were found not guilty and discharged."

Hope this is of help

Gary

[Mollyrose]

Gary thank you for info on the Butlers. The Mary Jane Butler you referred to is not my Mary but I don't know about the John (my Grandfather). There are a few Butler families between Carrick and Whitehouse.  You just never know what you're going to find out about your relatives. Thanks again 

[FionaLorraine]

Dear Mollyrose

I am looking for a Barr family in Whitehouse/Whiteabbey who married into the Butler family.

I have a John Barr who married a Margaret Butler in 1896 Whitehouse Witnesses the Mulhollands

They have at least one child in 1897 in Whiteabbey called Henry.  One of the witnesses here was a Henry Butler.

I couldn't find the family on the 1901 census yet in Whitehouse unless I missed them - time was tight.  Would these be connected to your family.  I haven't yet found out what happened to this family.

I also have a quick note of a Mary Butler from whiteabbey marrying a Mulholland with John Barr as a  witness in 1895 - not sure how accurate this note is.  I'll look into it. 

[Mollyrose]

Hi Fiona,
Thanks for the information, but the Margaret Butler (my aunt) dob 25/7/1911 was married to Hugh Crossan. The Harry Butler (uncle) dob would be c1875.  But the funny thing is My Gt. Aunt Sarah Corrigan (nee Butler) who brought up my mother Kathleen Butler dob 1915 well one of her daughters married a Mulholland they had I think 5 Children but I remember my mother  telling me about Katie Barr and Annie Barr  dob c1885 they never married. they were related in some way to the Butlers,  they all worked in the Linen Mill. I'm hoping to go to Whiteabbey this year and will try and check out Census in Proni.
Thanks again for taking the time to write maybe we are related in some odd way.

[FionaLorraine]

Let me give you all the details in case you find a link:

The birth of Henry Barr

WHITEHOUSE   
30/03/1897   
31/03/1897   
HENRY   BARR
Roman Catholic
father:  JOHN   BARR      
mother:  MARGARET   BUTLER   
Witnesses:  HENRY   BUTLER and ANNE   BARR   
WHITEABBEY CO ANTRIM
WHITEHOUSE


07/06/1896   
John Barr from Mossley               
Father Daniel Barr
Witness   Arthur   Mulholland   
Marries Margaret   Butler from Whiteabbey         
Witness:   Margaret   Mulholland First name Jane   
Whitehouse

This is in the Ulster Historical Society Records - I didn't note down Margaret's father at the time.


And here is another one for the pot with Butlers and Barrs

Marriages   07/01/1891   
JOSEPH   MATHERS   39 COOKE STREET         
Roman Catholic      
father:  JOHN   MATHERS      
mother: CATHERINE   MURRAY   
witness:  JOHN JOSEPH BUTLER   

marries

MARY   BARR   
46 LAGAN STREET         
Roman Catholic      
father JAMES   BARR      
mother:  JANE   CARTY   
ELIZABETH   DELANY      
DISP IN BANNS REV D MCCASHIN œ1 10 0 MGR HUSBAND'S PARENTS FROM DERRYTRASNA CO ARMAGH.    
ST MARY'S Roman Catholic   BELFAST   SHANKILL CARNMONEY   CO ANTRIM

Note that the address says Carnmoney in this near Whiteabbey.
         

[Mollyrose]

Hi Jo.
Sorry for taking so long to answer.
Yes Carnmoney is very close to Whiteabbey.
Jo

[FionaLorraine]

I'm looking in the same area as you are so I'll keep you posted about Butlers - Had a quick look at street directories [why do I only ever have 10 mins everywhere?] in Belfast Library 1911.  found the following Butlers:

WHITEABBEY

Henry Butler hacker 3 Concrete St
Eliza Butler 20 Office St
James Butler 49 Main Street

I'll be looking again through most of the years so I'll keep you posted.

[Mollyrose]

Hi again Fiona (not Jo )
Thanks for keeping me in mind. I notice you also have McGarrys in your family tree.   My Grandmother was Catherine McGarry from Co. Antrim? married Joseph Grew from Co Armagh they came over to Scotland and  married in West Calder I think Catherine had a sister living somewhere in Scotland she was a midwife I think.
I wonder if there is any connection to your McGarrys.
Jo