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Offline Geoff E

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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 09 March 06 07:52 GMT (UK) »
I have also updated the place name Potterhanworth in my records to show it as one word.

Modern usage is always Potterhanworth

The 1891 map at www.old-maps.co.uk has it as Potter Hanworth

The 1841 census enumerator has it as Potter-Hanworth

The choice is yours!
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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the reply Geoff but I am obviously not such a clevergirl!!  In my excitement I put the wrong Mary in for my Joseph - Mary Cranham was a note I had saved "just in case".  My Joseph Baldock was born about 1791/2 in Middle Rasen - his wife Mary c 1795 in Cherry Willingham.  The IGI has a marriage for Joseph & Mrs Mary Baldock (no maiden name and both of Friesthorpe) in 1816 at Friesthorpe.  Their eldest daughter Elizabeth was born in Friesthorpe in 1817 but their son John was born in Nettleham in 1832 (there are several other children in the years between).  Joseph & Mary are on the 1851/61 & 71 census at North Carlton Hall.  Mary died 1872 (aged 78) and Joseph in 1875 (aged 85) still in North Carlton. 

I find this family a little confusing to keep track of because two lines of my research (one through John and one through Elizabeth) come back to Joseph & Mary (this could explain why sometimes my brain isn't in the right gear!).

Hope you haven't fallen asleep reading this lot and if it is of use or interest to anyone but me....good
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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 March 06 23:19 GMT (UK) »
The IGI has a marriage for Joseph & Mrs Mary Baldock (no maiden name and both of Friesthorpe) in 1816 at Friesthorpe. 

This is wishful thinking by a contributor to the IGI - it will not have been based on any hard evidence, just on the fact that the first child they could find was 1817 Friesthorpe.  Registers do not say Mr and Mrs SMITH, but Mr SMITH and Miss BROWN.
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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 March 06 06:43 GMT (UK) »
had a drive around Louth today to research Cuthbert links-there are several Baldock graves at http://beehive.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/default.asp?WCI=SiteHome&ID=6973&PageID=37264
(I only noticed because I used to live at a Baldock house in Kent and it rang some bells). There is an email address on the link-they may be able to provide details of the inscriptions
Monique
Thank you for the link. I have posted a message in their guest book.
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Re: John BALDOCK - ELIZABETH THORP
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 March 06 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Hhi Geoff
This is what I have based my Baldock family theory on -
I  found George Baldock on the 1851 census living in Stoke Prior with his wife Fanny.
George Boldock  Head  age 50 Carpenter  born Sleaford
Fanny Boldock               age 45 born Wigston
Maried 1836 in New Sleaford.
I went to Leasingham Library and looked up Sleaford Church Records and found a christening for  George Baldock 4.5.1810   -  son of John and Elizabeth
Also a marriage for John Baldock and Elizabeth Thorp 1796.
I found several other children christened in the same church - children of John and Elizabeth.
William chr. 3.4.1807
Charles & Elizabeth - twins  chr. 8.10.1812
Henry chr. 22.4.1816     John  occupation - Innkeeper


I visited Ruskington cemetery where I found the headstone for John Baldock who died 26.Feb. 1859 - aged 84 years. Which means he was born 1775.
The 1851 census age of for John - 76 would be correct.
If Elizabeth was aged 59 she could not have married in 1796.
Where was George in 1841 - he was married to Fanny in 1836 but I do not have access to 1841 census.
Hope this will give you some background to my search.
Thanks Gay
I am very interested in this discussion. I am also researching Baldocks from Lincolnshire, in particular Ann Baldock, also known as Ann of Wyham, born circa 1808 Lincolnshire. She was transported to Australia in 1833 for stealing sheep from a John Thistlewood. I have since found that Wyham is near Louth so I am wondering if John and Elizabeth could be her parents or relations. I have not been able to find any  other info on her ancestry except her convict transportation details. I have her marriage record to Simon Ross in 1834 in Tasmania and details of their children: Lucy Ann, George, Mary and Simon. There is a mystery child- Harriet, from whom I am descended and for whom there is no birth record and we do not know if she is Ann's or Simon's, (from a previous relationship). Her father was listed as Simon Ross, mother unknown. Her death cert would suggest her birth was 1832 which would fit with her being Ann Baldock's daughter before she was transported. Ann Baldock was listed as "Single with 1 child" on her transportation record but there appears to be no child listed or mentioned thereafter. I hope I haven't confuse too many people. I would love to hear from anyone with info on Baldocks living in this area. Cheers, Rosemary
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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 18 March 06 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi romac

Wyham was/is a tiny place.  There is evidence of BALDOCK presence there in the form of a baptism ...

FRANCIS BALDOCK  1 JUN 1821, son of Robert and Jane

also of those parents

FRANCES BALDOCK  02 MAY 1819 Withcall
JANE BALDOCK 02 MAY 1819 Withcall
JOSEPH BALDOCK 07 MAR 1824 South Ormsby

However, Robert seems to have married Jane 23 Nov 1818 Withcall ... he seems to have been son of Robert and Mary BALDOCK bap Welton le Wold 1796 ... who had a daughter Ann bap 1799 at Welton.

There was an Austin BALDOCK in Louth gaol in the 1841 census ... 1851 shows him to have also been born Welton (he doesn't appear on the IGI).

Frankly, I doubt that there was a close connection between the BALDOCKs around Sleaford and those near Louth.

Just a few ramblings with no real purpose ...  :)

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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 April 06 13:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Elizabeth, Thank you very much for your reply and the Baldock info. Every bit helps. I am determined to track down Ann's family. There can't be too many Ann Baldocks born in Lincoln/Wyham area in the period 1807-1809- can there? Her family still remain a mystery; I'll just have to hope someone recognises her name in my various posts.
Thanks again, Rosemary ::)
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Re: John BALDOCK - ELIZABETH THORP
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 11 April 06 16:01 BST (UK) »
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I am very interested in this discussion. I am also researching Baldocks from Lincolnshire, in particular Ann Baldock, also known as Ann of Wyham, born circa 1808 Lincolnshire.
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Hi Rosemary
there are two people on GenesReunited that have her in their trees
Monique
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Re: John BALDOCK - Elizabeth THORP
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 11:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monique. Yes, that would be  Carol with whom I am already in contact as her husband is my relation. Another member has imported my GEDCOM, so probably him. Otherwise noone seems to have heard of her. I've spent days, months searching for her........
 ::)
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