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1891 Census - could they have been at sea
« on: Wednesday 01 March 06 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi!

I wonder if anyone can help?

I can't find a father and son on the 1891 Census, though I'm pretty sure I've got them on the 1901 Census.  As they were both 'seamen'
or 'mariners' I was wondering if they could have been away at sea and not included in the Census.

In 1881 I've got Robert Waters, age 47, born Scotland, Newhaven with wife Mary, age 43, born Glasgow.  Also daughter Margaret (19) born, Scotland, Leith and son Robert (12) born Glasgow.  They are living at  11 Hyde Park Terrace, Holy Trinity Hull (RG11/4777 page 34).

In 1891 I can find a Mary Waters born in Scotland of the right age, but it says she was a widow.  Daughter Margaret was married by this time.  There is no sign of either Robert.

In 1901 I've found Robert Waters, age 62, born Newhaven Scotland, master mariner, a widower, living at Cummins Terrace, Porter Street, Holy Trinity, Hull. (RG13/4500 page 2).  The age is wrong but it certainly sounds like the right person.

Also in 1901 I've found Robert Waters age 32 on board the Tantallon Castle (RG13/4474 page 171), so I think this is the son.

Sorry to be so long winded, but can anyone shed any light on this for me?  I'm puzzled as to how come Mary is listed as a widow if her husband actually was still alive.  I've also not been able to find the death of a Mary Waters in Hull prior to 1901 (she does not appear on the Census) and the Robert Waters death I found is in 1914.

Would appreciate your comments.

Thanks
Fiona
Waters - Hull, Edinburgh(Leith), Glasgow
Hazard - Hull, Lincoln
Whitbread - Lincoln, Buckinghamshire
Hutchison - Edinburgh, Glasgow

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Re: 1891 Census - could they have been at sea
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 March 06 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Fiona,
Sorry can't shed light, but I did find a death for Mary Waters Jun Qu 1917 Hull 9d 330 aged 77 if any use
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Re: 1891 Census - could they have been at sea
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 March 06 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking Barbara.  That's the only death for a Mary Waters I could find in Hull too.  I think I'll just have to order both death certificates and see what comes up. 

I'm beginning to wonder if they separated/divorced but said they were widowed to hide the fact.

Thanks again
Fiona
Waters - Hull, Edinburgh(Leith), Glasgow
Hazard - Hull, Lincoln
Whitbread - Lincoln, Buckinghamshire
Hutchison - Edinburgh, Glasgow

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Re: 1891 Census - could they have been at sea
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