THORNHILL look up please

[suzard]

please could anyone do the following look ups?
1841 CENSUS-WILLIAM THORNHILL b.abt 1820 Shipley Derbys-father SAMUEL, mother ELIZABETH

1871 and 1891 census -WILLIAM THORNHILL b. abt 1862 Shipley-father RICHARD B. 1831 Shipley, mother HANNAH

1841 /51 CENSUS-RICHARD THORNHILL b 1831 Shipley

1841/51 CENSUS-RICHARD THORNHILL b 1829 Shipley

They are two different RICHARDS-both married Hannahs (Parker and Clifford) and they lived a few doors away from each other at some time!!
They should be found in Shipley, Heanor, Ilkeston area

A bit complicated!!! Help would be appreciated.

[carol8353]

Here's a small part of your request! The 1871 for William,who has been transcribed as Willian.
Living at Dunnbles??? Shipley. Dad is a coal miner!!!


 
Anne Thornhill 7  Ilkeston Daughter  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Artha Thornhill 1  Eastwood, Nottinghamshire, England Son  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Clara Thornhill 3  Shipley Daughter  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Hannah Thornhill 35  Codnor Wife  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Mary Jane Thornhill 14  Langley Daughter  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Richard Thornhill 36  Shipley, Derbyshire, England Head  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Richard Thornhill 5  Shipley Son  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   
Willian Thornhill 9  Ilkeston Son  Shipley  Nottinghamshire   

You're not kidding, sounds very confusing! 
 

Carol

[suzard]

Thank you -thats def them
The address is "The Dumbles"
That's another little corner of the puzzle!

[sunflower]

Hi

Found 2 Richards in the 1851 census index of Derbyshire.
Folio 2126 - 115 9

Samuel Thornhill aged 59
George Thornhill          38
Ann Thornhill               25
Thomas Thornhill         24
Fanny Thornhill           22
Richard Thornhill         19
Elizabeth Thornhill        3

Folio 2126- 20 121
Samuel Thornhill aged 43
Caroline Thornhill         36
Richard Thornhill          16
Emma Thornhill            14
Harriett Thornhill          11
Ann Thornhill                  9
William Thornhill             7
Eliza     Thornhill             5
Millicent Thornhill            2

Folio 2126 does cover the Shipley area. This is from an index only so does not give any other information.

Hope it helps a bit.
Sunflower

[carol8353]

Are these yours in 1881? I've had no luck finding any of them in 1891 yet. Keep coming across the OTHER Richard and his family though.Do you want them?
There are too many girls in yours who must be married by 91


 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Richard THORNHILL   Head   W   Male   47   Shipley, Derby, England   Coal Miner     
 Clara THORNHILL   Daugr      Female   13   Shipley, Derby, England   Scholar     
 Arthur THORNHILL   Son      Male   11   Eastwood, Nottingham, England   Scholar     
 Hannah THORNHILL   Daugr      Female   7   Shipley, Derby, England   Scholar     


  Dwelling   Shipley Road Cottage
  Census Place Shipley, Derby, England
  Family History Library Film   1341793
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   3325 / 37
  Page Number   13
 

[suzard]

Yes these are mine-maybe you wont find them on 1891 -. At some time between 1881 and 1901  richard had remarried (eliza baker) and they had 3 children together(first one bef marriage)-By  1901 they had moved to Glass Houghton Yorks=leaving children from 1st marriage behind-some married , others "in service" in Notts /Derby area.
Thankyou so much for your help

[carol8353]

Oh well now you say that!!! Here's Richard and Eliza in 1891 at 23 Union Street Whitwood,Normanton,Yorks.
Still not found William though 

Thornhill, Betsy A 9 Carlton, Yorkshire Daughter  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Eliza 34 Clay cross, Derbyshire Wife  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Eliza 4 Normanton, Yorkshire Daughter  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Harry 7.12 Whitwood, Yorkshire Son  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Richard 49 Shipley, Derbyshire Head  Whitwood  Yorkshire   
Thornhill, Robert 8 Cudworth, Yorkshire Son  Whitwood  Yorkshire   

Carol

[suzard]

Thankyou so much-have fitted lots more pieces in today
Thankyou Sunflower too -all info has been veryhelpful-cant believe the 2 Richards who both married hannahs-both had fathers called samuel!!!
Where are you William- I know where he was in 1901-Bridge Street langley Mill-married to Elizabeth
In 1881 he was a servant at Quelgreaves Farm Shipley
Wonder what he was up to in 1891???
Thank you all-only a little puzzle to do now!

[maidmarianoops]

Thornhill, Hannah 34 Denby, Derbyshire Wife  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
 Thornhill, James T 2 Stapenhill, Derbyshire Son  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
 Thornhill, John W 6 Stapenhill, Derbyshire Son  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
 Thornhill, Sarah E 9 Stapenhill, Derbyshire Daughter  Stapenhill  Staffordshire   
 Thornhill, William 30 Mickleover, Derbyshire Head  Stapenhill  Staffordshire 
ag farm labourer
1891 census