1851 Census lookup Forfar

[wildgoose]

I am tring to trackdown a Thomas MARTIN & family on the 1851 Census.  In both 1841 & 1861 he is in Forfar but despite my best efforts on Scotland's People I,m unable to track him down.  The information below may help.

Also researching the NICOLL, KERNAGHAN, STEEDMAN, FENTON, FERRIER  families of Angus.

Dave

Dwelling: Tornshaven
Census Place: Fofar, ANS
MARTIN Thomas M 25 Hand Loom Weaver Angus       
MARTIN Janet Fenton F 20 Hand Loom Weaver Angus       
MARTIN Mary F 7 Angus       
MARTIN William M 3 Angus       
MARTIN Ann F 1 Angus
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: 3 Lappiedub.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
Thomas MARTIN, head, marr., 46, linen weaver, ANS, Eassie.
Janet Fenton MARTIN, wife, marr., 45, ANS, Forfar.
Mary, daur., unm., 26, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
Ann, daur., unm., 20, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
Margaret, daur., unm., 17, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
James, son, 13, linen weaver, ANS, Forfar.
David, son, 8, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
Peter, son, 5, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
John PETER, boarder, grandson, 3, ANS, Forfar.

[stjoseph]

I am  looking for a Bridget  Martin she was my Gran's mother  Margaret Martin born 1898 Dundee. Bridget was single so do not know who the father was.  Bridget disappears after 1901 census.

[wildgoose]

Finally found Thomas under the name MARTAIN!

[Grey Seagull]

Hi,

I have Ferriers in Angus, oldest from Muirside of Kinnell, but also Inverkeillor, Kirkden & Froickheim.  Common names are William, Alexander, Elisabeth, Margaret & Isabel(la).

Generations of dykers/stonemasons...

Lots on my website when it's up and running again?

Think there may be a link? 

[wildgoose]

many thanks.  I'm still no further forward in finding Euphemia Steedman MARTIN since I posted my last message in '06

[Lass]

Hi wildgoose

Just browsing through and the name Fenton caught my eye.

I have a Jane Fenton b. 1858 in my line - I'm sorry I don't have much more info right this minute as I'm at work, but if you'd like more please do let me know.  She married William Balharry and I believe had 12 children (this is from memory, again I have all the records at home), some of whom were given Fenton as a middle name.

I'd be glad to give you any info you want.

Lass x

[wildgoose]

I have information on the FENTONs  see below...unfortunately 5 years on I still can't find Euphemia Steedman MARTIN or husband James on any of the earlier Census records(parents of Thomas) even though I have her death certificate dated 1875 
Name:   James FENTON
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Occupation:   Post runner
Marriage:   2 10 1802   Forfar
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Spouse:   Janet MITCHELL
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Children:
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1 F:   Ann FENTON
Birth:   11 9 1803   Forfar
Christen:   22 9 1803   Forfar
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2 M:   Thomas FENTON
Birth:   26 4 1805   Forfar
Christen:   3 5 1805   Forfar
Death:   18 12 1888   34 Manor St., Forfar.1
Occupation:   Linen Hand Loom Weaver
Spouse:   Ann CALDER
Marriage:   30 7 1826   Forfar.
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3 F:   Margaret FENTON
Birth:   6 7 1807   Forfar
Christen:   23 7 1807   Forfar.
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4 M:   James FENTON (Twin)
Birth:   19 10 1810   Forfar
Christen:   1 11 1810   Forfar
Occupation:   Printer.
Spouse:   Amelia
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5 F:   Agnes FENTON (Twin)
Birth:   19 10 1810   Forfar
Christen:   1 11 1810   Forfar
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6 F:   Janet FENTON
Birth:   31 1 1815   Forfar
Christen:   6 2 1815   Forfar.
Death:   3 2 1878   3 Lappiedub, Forfar.2
Spouse:   Thomas MARTIN
Marriage:   20 5 1836   Forfarshire3
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7 F:   Agnes FENTON
Birth:   12 5 1819   Forfar
Christen:   7 6 1819   Forfar.


Notes for Thomas (Child 2)
1841 Census recs.
Dwelling: Hill St.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
FENTON Thomas M 35 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Forfarshire       
CALDER Ann F 35 Forfarshire       
FENTON Ann F 4 Forfarshire       
FENTON Agnes F 2 Forfarshire       
FENTON Mary F 5m Forfarshire.
1851 Census recs.
Dwelling: Manor St.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
Thomas FENTON, head, marr., 46, hand loom weaver, linen, ANS, Forfar.
Ann Calder FENTON, wife, marr., 48, yarn winder, ANS, Aberlemno.
Mary, daur., 10, yarn winder, ANS, Forfar.
David, son, 7, scholar, ANS, Forfar.
Susan, daur., 5, ANS, Forfar.
Agnes, daur., 12, yarn winder, ANS, Forfar.
1861 Census recs.
Dwelling: 4 Manor St.
Census Place: Forfar, ANS.
Thomas FENTON, head, marr., 56, gardener, ANS, Forfar.
Ann Calder FENTON, wife, marr., 58, ANS, Forfar.
Mary, daur., unm., 20, linen hand loom weaver, ANS, Forfar.
Susan, daur., 15, linen hand loom weaver, ANS, Forfar.
1881 Census: 34 Manor Street, Forfar, Forfar, Scotland, Thomas FENTON W 76  M Forfar, Forfar, Scotland  Rel: Father In Law Robert KEAY Occ: Retired Gardener.


Notes for James (Child 4)
1881 Census recs.
Dwelling   28 Studley Road
Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England
James FENTON   Head   M   Male   72   Forfar, Scotland   Printer Retired     
Amelia FENTON   Wife   M   Female   58   Marylebone, Middlesex, England     



Notes for Janet (Child 6)
1841 Census: Tornshaven, Forfar, ANS,  Janet Fenton MARTIN F 20 Hand Loom Weaver Forfarshire   
1851 Census: South Street, Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTAIN, wife, marr., 34, ANS, Forfar.
1861 Census: 3 Lappiedub, Census Place: Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTIN, wife, marr., 45, ANS, Forfar.
1871 Census: 3 Lappiedub, Forfar, ANS, Janet Fenton MARTIN, wife, marr., 56, ANS, Forfar.


Sources
1. Death cert. No.259
Thomas FENTON, general labourer, widr. Ann CALDER
d.1888, Dec 18th, 34 Manor St., Forfar, ANS, age 82.
f.James FENTON, carrier, decd.
m.Janet FENTON, ms MITCHELL, decd.
cod.senile decay.
inf.Robert KEAY, son in law, occupier.
reg.1888, Dec 18th, Forfar, ANS.
2. Death cert. No.23
Janet MARTIN, marr. Thomas MARTIN, handloom linen weaver.
d.1878, Feb 3rd, 3 Lappiedub, Forfar, ANS, age 61. 
f.James FENTON, decd. 
m.Janet FENTON, ms MITCHELL, decd. 
cod.heart disease.
inf.James MARTIN, son, 5 Canmore St. Forfar.
reg.1878, Jan 4th, Forfar, ANS
3. OPR Proclamation of Banns & Marriages
1836, May 20th, Angus, ANS, Thomas MARTIN weaver & Janet FENTON both residing in the Parish were proclaimed in order to marriage, and were afterwards married.

[Lass]

Hi again, my Jane seems to be in addition to yours, so here are the details I have for sake of completeness - it's not much, but it's free 


Jane Fenton   
born c. 1836 Tannadice, Forfar
died 30th June 1900, Tannadice, Forfar


married William Balharry in Cortachy & Clova, Forfar on 17th December 1858

Marriage certificate states Jane's parents as Peter Fenton, labourer and Elizabeth Fenton nee Gale


William and Jane had the following children:

Peter Fenton Balharry
born 1857

Julia Balharry                     
born 1859   
died 1884

James Balharry                   
born 1861

Mary Fenton Balharry         
born 1863

William Balharry                 
born 1863   
died 1917

Jane Balharry                     
born 1865

Elizabeth Fenton Balharry   
born 1868   
died 1917

John Balharry   (my great grandfather)                   
born 1870   
died 1947   
 
George Kerr Balharry         
born 1871

Robert Turner Balharry       
born 1874   
died 1876

Thomas Wylie Balharry
born 1874
died 1904

Richard Balharry
born 1880
died 1933


I don't know about anyone else, but as a mother, I can sympathise with these women and I don't know how on earth they coped having so many children!!

I have them on the 1871 and 1881 census, at Ingliston Smithy, Kinnettles, Angus - both William and Jane are recorded as Blacksmiths.  In the 1891 census, William is recorded as a Spirit Dealer and the family is back living in Forfar proper.

Anyhow, I'm sure that's more than enough and maybe not of particular interest to you, but I hope it helps you expand your Fentons!

Lass x

[Lass]

While I'm on the subject, I also have a Ferrier in my line!!

Ann Ferrier
born c.1813

Daughter of John Ferrier and Margaret Anderson

married John Balharrie  in Kinettles, Forfarshire  23rd November 1834


John Balharrie (my great, great, great grandfather) and Ann Ferrier were the parents of William Balharry (my great, great grandfather) who married Jane Fenton as per my previous post!!

If you want more info on the other kids of John Balharrie and Ann Ferrier let me know, I don't want to throw a ton of info at you that you don't want!


Lass x