Leadbeater and Oakley, Kings Norton and Balsall Heath

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Can anyone Help me Please.
On the 1881 Census I have  widow Martha Leadbeater age 42  born Leominster Hereford I believe her maiden name is Page. of 99 Sherbourne street Children born balsall Heath.   Thomas 15
              William D 14
              Charles 12
               Stanley 8
               Alice Louise 5   {my grandmother}
                Alfred    3
                Florence age 2months.
So her Husband Thomas Ferdinand Leadbeater must have died 1880 1881 because of Florences age.
I would like to know where they were on the 1891 and 1901 census.  I was following a different Leadbeater family , with a father Thomas and daughter Alice till i got Alices biorth certificate.  Alice married Frederick Charles or Charles Frederick as he liked to be known on Christmas day 1904. I do not know where or when Thomas was born or died .
  1871 census   The Oakley family Richard age 63 at Seymour Street gardener born tewsbury.
Wife Elizabeth age 40   born Harthbury children  born Kings Norton      Helen age 8
                 Alfred age  6
                 Henry  age 4
on 1881  at 100 Sherbourne Street

all of the above  plus born Balsall Heath
                      Edwin age  9
                     Frederick age 7 [grandfather}
1891 still at Sherbourne Street Elizabeth age 59 widow  with Alfred age 27 Edwin age 19 and Charles age 17. I do  not know when Richard died he was born 1808 his farther was Richard and elizabeth was a Hemming father Joseph. Elizabeth has three different birth places but i think it is Harthbury Worcester.  The daughter Helen Amelia born 1862 i could not find but  lo and behold she turned up on Elizabeths death certificate in 1920 as a Willett.  May be they emigrated to Mars and only turn up for special occasions!!!. Richard was 53 widower when he married Elizabeth Hemming in 1862. Must have had another family also.  Many thanks i Hope this message is not to long new member here. Pam

[Nicky]

Hi
Here are Martha and Thomas in 1871, this also shows Marthas mother,so you were right her maiden name was Page.

Chas Edwd Leadbeater 2  Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Geo Leadbeater 3 months  Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Martha Leadbeater 31  Leominster, Herefordshire, England Wife  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Thomas Leadbeater 33  Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Thomas Leadbeater 5  Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
William Edwd Leadbeater 3  Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Mary Page 67  Alcester, Warwickshire, England Mother-in-law  Kings Norton  Worcestershire 

Source information:    RG10/3079
Registration district:    Kings Norton 
Sub-registration district:    Kings Norton 
ED, institution, or vessel:    13b 
Folio:    61 
Page:    7
Household schedule number:    30

address Mount Pleasant

Thomas is listed as a brace and bit maker
Mary Page is a widow.

and here they are in 1891

Leadbeater, C F 21 Birmingham Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Leadbeater, L 15 Birmingham Daughter  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Leadbeater, Martha 53 Leominster, Herefordshire Head  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Leadbeater, Stanley 18 Birmingham Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire   
Leadbeater, W E 23 Birmingham Son  Kings Norton  Worcestershire 
Leadbeater,A, 14, Birmingham, Son, Birmingham

Source information:    RG12/2355
Registration district:    Kings Norton 
Sub registration district:    Kings Norton 
ED, institution, or vessel:    37 
Folio:    42 
Page:    26

address 1 CrossmontPlace

occupations
Son A age 14 errand boy
daughter L (presumably Alice Louise) warehouse girl
Stanley - screw maker
son C - mount burnisher
son W - engraver

and in 1901

Alfred Leadheater 24  Bham, Warwickshire, England Son  Balsall Heath  Worcestershire   
Louie Leadheater 25  Bham, Warwickshire, England Daughter  Balsall Heath  Worcestershire   
Martha Leadheater 63  Leominster, Herefordshire, England Head  Balsall Heath  Worcestershire   
Stanley Leadheater 28  Bham, Warwickshire, England Son  Balsall Heath  Worcestershire   
William Leadheater 33  Bham, Warwickshire, England Son  Balsall Heath  Worcestershire 

Source information:    RG13/2811
Registration district:    Kings Norton 
Sub-registration district:    Kings Norton 
ED, institution, or vessel:    63 
Folio:    57 
Page:    1
Household schedule number:    8

address 15 Colville Road

occupations

William general engraver
Stanley machine maker screw trade
Louise millinery machinist
Alfred brass worker

Hopethis helps

Nicky

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Thank you nicky this is a great help i cannot believe it. I had almost given up and you have given me all this information.   Many thanks it seems george and florence must have died.  No wonder I could not find Alice Louise  if she was known as Louie, my grandparents were very old  when I remember them Dad married at 39 and they were about 31 and 29, so everyone was old and they believed children should be seen and not heard.  Looking at 1901 the children are not in a hurry to leave home by their ages, kindest regards Pam