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HILL - BUTLIN - WATTS
« on: Wednesday 29 March 06 23:01 BST (UK) »
 ??? Looking for any info. on the HILL family ie- Father Leonard - Children - Bertha, Mrashall, Ernest, Jessica, Lottie, Millie and other siblings. All born Coaley area and travelled the fairgrounds through the West country, with amusement and catering stalls. Bertha was to become the mother of Sir Billy BUTLIN, who also travelled with his mother and uncles in his early days. Also the Watts family married into the Hills and one Jack Edmund WATTS was an amusement caterer travelling the fairgrounds.
 
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Re: HILL - BUTLIN - WATTS
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 March 06 20:46 BST (UK) »
1901 census
RG13/2440/56/15 - Twerton Villas, Butterow, Rodborough

Annie E Hill  Head  Wid  58  Retired Roundabout Proprietor & Amusement Caterer  Coaley
Bertha Butlin  Dau  23  Coaley
Millie Hill  Dau  14  Coaley
William Butlin  Grandson  2  Cape Colony

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: HILL - BUTLIN - WATTS
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 March 06 20:57 BST (UK) »
1891 census:
RG12/2062/37/12 - "Carnarvon", Edgar St, Hereford

Annie E Hill  Head  Wid  48  Amusement Caterer  Cowley (sic), Gloucs
Clifford H Hill  Son  26  Amusement Caterer  Cowley
Marshall G Hill  Son  24  Amusement Caterer  Cowley
Ernest Hill  Son  17  Housekeeper  Cowley
Jessie A Hill  Dau  21  Assistant Housekeeper  Cowley
(Plus 4 boarders, all showmen.)

Also 1891 census:
RG12/2002/31/7 - Coaley St, Coaley

Annie E Hill  Head  "from home"
Bertha Hill  Dau  13  Scholar  Coaley
Bernard Hill  Son  9  Scholar  Cheltenham
Lottie Hill  Dau  7  Scholar  Coaley
Millie Hill  Dau 4  Scholar  Coaley
Alice Griffin  Sister-in-law  29  Dressmaker  Coaley
Amelia Griffin  Mother-in-law  Wid  66  Housekeeper  Gloucester


You can search the 1881 census free at http://www.familysearch.org - will check 1871 in a minute!


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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: HILL - BUTLIN - WATTS
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 March 06 21:27 BST (UK) »
When I got back this far, I found Bertha's father was Edmund, not Leonard, but I'm sure it's her family...  ???

1871 census:
RG10/2593/31/13 - Hawshill, Coaley

Edmund Hill  Head  27  Baker & Confectioner  Coaley
Annie Hill  Wife  27  Coaley
Clifton Hill  Son  5  Scholar  Coaley
Marshall Hill  Son  4  Scholar  Coaley
Milicent Hill  Dau  3  Coaley
Jessica Hill  Dau  1  Coaley
Ann Pearce  Servant  18  Kingscote


OK!  Leonard was the grandfather...!

1861 census
RG9/1752/37/3 - [...], Coaley

Leonard Hill  Head  Wid  40  Confectioner  Cam, Gloucs
Edmund Hill  Son  17  Confectioner  Coaley
Hannah Hill  Dau  12  Domestic Servant  Cambridge, Gloucs 
Mary Jane Hill  Dau  9  Scholar  Cambridge, Gloucs
Charles Hill  Son  7  Scholar  Cambridge, Gloucs
Daniel Hill  Son  5  Scholar  Coaley
Kate Hill  Dau  4  Scholar  Coaley
Emma Hill  Dau  2  Coaley


I haven't found them yet in 1851.


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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: HILL - BUTLIN - WATTS
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 March 06 21:37 BST (UK) »
Deaths:

Leonard Hill, age 47, Dursley Reg. District, Jun Qtr 1867, Vol. 6a Page 125

Leonard Hill, age 82, Dursley Dist., Dec Qtr 1878, Vol. 6a Page 171 (perhaps above Leonard's father?)

Edmund Hill, age 44, Dursley Dist. Dec Qtr 1888, Vol. 6a Page 137

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Re: HILL - BUTLIN - WATTS
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 March 06 23:06 BST (UK) »
I've found Edmund in 1851, but not Leonard:

HO107/1964/104/4 - Ebley, Stonehouse, Gloucs

Thomas Webb  Head  30  Gardener  Stow on the Wold
Harriet Webb  Wife  25  Power Loom Weaver  N[ot] K[nown], Gloucs
Emily Jenkins  Lodger  23  Power Loom Weaver  King Hanley, Gloucs
Eliza Amos  Lodger  23  Power Loom Weaver  Horsley, Gloucs
Edmund Hill  Visitor  6  Scholar  Coaley


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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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