How do I find out where someone was born?

[KatPez]

William Miller was a joiner

Richard Kelley was a miner.

The witnesses are Nicholas Salthouse and Grace White.

[Arranroots]

It looks as though the William MILLER carpenter we found earlier is a good bet then!

Will find the details for you and follow up on the witnesses - nice unusual name for Nicholas!

Have to pop out, but will do it later if no-one has found them by then.

kind regards, Arranroots 

[Tati]

Have found a good match in 1891 

Posting in a second

Tanja 

[KatPez]

I'm not looking for the Millers.  I've found them.  It's the Kelley's I'm trying to trace.

[Arranroots]

Well, since I just transcribed them will post anyway!

RG13/3966/37/28

William MILLER H M 55 - joiner carp - Lanc Lythan
Margaret W M 51 - do Formby
Thomas B son U 25 - house painter - do Lythan
John A son U 19 - bricklayer apprentice - do
Ralph son U 17 - do - do
Henry son 16 - plumber apprentice - do
Elizath A dau 13 - do
Jane BROOKS serv U 15 - gen serv dom - do Formby

Address: 8 Henry St, Lytham, Lancashire

Sometimes it helps to folow both sides of the family as they are often neighbours - after all they had to meet somewhere.

If you had this information, you could have posted it yourself, to save us looking.

A 

[KatPez]

Found him!!!!!

We went on a few odd tracks that we got from my dad's cousin and we've found Richard Kelly in Cumberland, born in the Isle of Man which was what my dad's cousin had found.

thanks everyone.

[Tati]

Right - I was talking about the Kellys too 

Have already copied it so here we go:

1891
RG12/4312 20 36
Arlecdon Frizington, Cumberland
3 Dyke Moor
Alexander L White, head, 58, Stone Mason, b. Scotland
Mary J K, wife, 40, b. Cornwall Redruth
Richard Kelly, stepson, 15, Stone Mason apprentice, b. Scotland
Mary J Kelly, stepdau, 13, scholar, b. Cumberland Arlecdon
George Kelly, stepson, 11, scholar, b. do.
Thomas M Kelly, stepson, 10, scholar, b. do.
Lily White, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
Alexander White, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
Grace White, dau, 1, b. do.

Going back to 1881:
RG11/5183 100 19
Arlecdon Frizington, Cumberland
Griffin Row
Richard Kelly, head, 30, Iron miner, b. K? Lonan? Isle of Man
Mary Jane, wife, 29, b. Redruth Cornwall
Richard, son, 5, scholar, b. Cam? Baslam? Scotland
Mary Jane, dau, 3, b. Frizington Cumberland
George, son, 1, b. do.
Thomas M, son, 1mo, b. do.

Cumberland, Isle of Man, Cornwall, Grace White ... everything's there! 

[Dave Francis]

Mum and Step Dad in 1901

1901 Arlecdon, Cumberland
RG13/4889 folio 149 page 55
4 Dyke Nook
Alex. White, head, m, 70. stone mason, Scotland
Mary White, wife, m, 50, Redruth Cornwall
Thos Kelly, son in law, s, 20, iron ore miner, Arlecdon Cumberland
Alex White, son, 16, labourer, Arlecdon Cumberland
Grace White, daur, 13, Arlecdon Cumberland
Janet White, daur, 11, Arlecdon Cumberland
Donald White, 8, Arlecdon Cumberland
Eliz. White, 6, Arlecdon Cumberland

[Dave Francis]

And Mary herself in 1901 ...

1901 Witton, Lancashire
RG13/3928 folio 97 page 1
"Cambay Villas"
Thomas Turner Mercer, head, widr, 58, laundry engineer & ironfounder, Blackburn Lancs
Robert Mercer, son, 27, [something] & spinner, Blackburn Lancs
Alexander Mercer, son, 25, physician & surgeon, Blackburn Lancs
Lois Southworth Mercer, daur, 23, Blackburn Lancs
Mary Kelly, serv[ant], 23, general serv (domestic), Frizington Cumberland