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Stafford Registrar
« on: Wednesday 12 April 06 11:19 BST (UK) »
Hi, I wonder if someone can help me. I have a relative Samuel Jenkinson born around 1788 St Marys? Stafford.

There is no record of him apart from a marriage at St Marys in 1808 to Ellen Stanton. I am assuming his birth is around the same age of his bride.ie 1788 and have nothing else to go on...I tried the look up exchange but they cant find anything either...

I am desparatly trying to confirm his parents.. I have a most likely match as Thomas and Mary*(considering they have children named after both their parents and a Sam is Marys dad..so my sam..is the grandchild of a sam..(which is usually how they did things in those days isnt it))

The Staffs record offices have told me the registrar on Eastgate has copies of the marriage.. I have emailed the registrar but have had no reply as yet... Does anyone know how i can view this certificate or at least get details from it to confirm parentage? Is there anyone here who is able to visit the registrar to view it..or do you have to make appointments etc?? Please help if you can :(  :)...This is an important person, everything i have done beyond this entry cannot be confirmed otherwise...

Thank you for your help

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Re: Stafford Registrar
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:28 BST (UK) »
Dont know if you have this, was trying to find Samuel's birth year from census return.

1851 as follows:

HO107/1999 Folio 291 Page 31
Snowhill, Stafford St Mary

Ellen Jenkinson Head 63 Widow Charwoman born Stafford
George Jenkinson Son 20 Unmarried Corwainer born Stafford
Charles Jenkinson Grandson 6 born Stafford

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Sandra
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Re: Stafford Registrar
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:39 BST (UK) »
A marriage certificate for 1808 will not have the parents names on it.  Your best bet is applying for the death certificate as it will state the age at death enabling you to narrow down his birth year.

Samuel Jenkinson
March quarter of 1848
District: Stafford
Volume: 17
Page: 126

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Sandra
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Re: Stafford Registrar
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra yes thank you I have that.

I have contacted the records offices who now say even the IGI marriage entry..the only record i can find on him does not hold his date of birth or a fathers name!!..so short of actually visiting the parish (something that is not an option at the moment, i live 2 miles from the beach on the south coast) and wading through the actual registers it is looking like a lost cause.  :'(


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Re: Stafford Registrar
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:43 BST (UK) »
 :)  I have the printout you posted.. ;D
of his death..theres no age listed on it..I have written to the registrar on Eastgate Street Staffs who has not replied :'(

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:47 BST (UK) »
Personally I would apply for the certificate from the ONS site.  All certificates of death have age at time of death on them.  All the records office will be able to tell you is the name of the church that performed the ceremony.

Regards

Sandra :)

I dont live far from the records office, I will try and pop in over the weekend.

ps, from what i can tell, Samuel and Ellen had 9 children.
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:49 BST (UK) »
I may have to pay a genealogy person in Staffs to investigate it for me. I saw a company who does this advertised somewhere, will have to find the link again. Never Mind..thanks for trying Sandra, Much appreciated :)

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Re: Stafford Registrar
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:53 BST (UK) »
Sam and Ellen had 8 children that I know of...

Sarah, Caroline, Henry, Maria, Harriet, Sam, George and Thomas

Is there one more??.. :D

Thank you very much for trying, if you get a chance over the weekend...it really means a lot to me to get a date of birth or a fathers name

What is the ONS site? I will probabaly have heard of it once you say it.. ::)

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 April 06 19:59 BST (UK) »
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp

There seems to be a William but on another inspection it may be a typing error as it says 1782, son of Samuel and Ellen. St Mary's Stafford
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