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Offline Donald NZ

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Looking for any information or connection to other’s researching the family of:
John McKay, born abt 1756, died after 6/6/1841. John was a Miller at Ashirimore?, OldshoreMore, Sutherland
Son John born abt 1775, married Merrun ?? born abt 1778, they were immediate neighbours to Johns father at Oldshoremore
Daughter Chirsty born abt 1790, married on 23 February 1816  to George Morrison born abt 1789 near Badcall. Their children all born at Oldshore More were Donald born abt. 1820; David b.1822; Alexr. (Landy) Born abt. 1824; John  born abt. 1826; Peter born abt. 1830
Eldest son Donald Morrison married Janet Ross, May 1848.They settled in Achriesgill.

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Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 December 06 13:44 GMT (UK) »
hi donald, do you require a look up of the scottish censuses for any of your family?


trying to help

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 07:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Joe
Thank you for your “trying to help” - look ups of the Scottish censuses for any of your family.

I have three that I would like census information on. However I do not know what their census heading would come under. It would be great if you could come up with any information on any of them.

(1) 1851 Eddrachillis Census: George Mackay, unmarried, age in 1851 = 22years; a school teacher. His marriage document states he was born in West Strathan, Melness, Parish of Tongue, normally resident of Culkein, Stoer, Parish of Assynt, a teacher. Other hand-me-down notes state he was a teacher in Kinlochbervie. This George died in February 1959; so 1851 is the only window to locate where he was teaching. As he died of TB it is possible some of his pupils were also affected, from whom he may himself have become infected.
I have tried to identify where he may have been a teacher, but in every instance there has been no reply from the schools I have sought information from, not even a suggestion as to where to find this sort of information.

(2) 1841  Census - Alexander Morrison, born Durness Parish, age 86yrs and his wife Marion Macintosh, born Durness Parish age 81 years. their address being:- Cumlodden, by Inveraray."
Cumlodden Estate is recorded as Grid Reference NR 980990 in the County of Argyll. The grid location is about 45 miles in a straight line, Wst.Nth.Wst. from Glasgow. The general location is – access from “Sound of Bute” and almost half way up on the westward side of the Nth East leg of Loch Fyne. I have mentioned the foregoing as I do not know how Census references this area.

(3) 1851 Census - Bellochantuy, Argyllshire, Scotland
Duncan McMillan, about 3years old, born at Bellochantuy, Argyllshire, Scotland, about 1848.
The 1861 Census may possibly have him recorded as a 13yr old.

Duncan married abt 1870 to Elizabeth Michieson, who was born January 1851 at Whickham, Northumberland, England, so Duncan could be anywhere by 1871. They both emigrated to New Zealand.

Joe, if you even come up with one of the above it will be most appreciated

Sincerely
Donald
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Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 10:33 GMT (UK) »
hi donald, just one just now to start you off, will do more after.

1851 census: newlands, thurso, caithness

george mckay...lodger...age 19...teacher...born tongue
hugh mckay...lodger...age 26...pavt manur lab...born farr
william mckay...lodger...age 27...pavt manur lab...born farr

head of household

george macdonald...age 45...ag lab...born greenock

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 13:09 GMT (UK) »
1841 census: salachary, inveraray

Alexander...age 80...farmer
Mary...age 70
John...age 35
Ann...age 30
Alexander...age 15
Alexander...age 4
John...age 2
Dugald...age 1

all born Argyll


1851 census: salachry, inveraray

John...head...age 49...farmer
Nancy...wife...age 46...born kilmartin
Janet Munro...mother-in-law...age 77...born kilmartin
Alexander...son...age 14
John...son...age 12
Dugald...son...age 10
Jessy...dau...age 8
Mary...dau...age 6
Duncan...son...age 2

all born inveraray unless stated otherwise.


1861 census: sallachary, inveraray

John...head...age 58...farmer/100 acres
Nancy...wife...age 50...born kilmartin
Janet Munro...mother-in-law...born kilmichael
John...son...age 22...ploughman
Dugald...son...age 20...tailor
Janet...dau...age 18...domestic servant
Duncan...son...age 12

all born inveraray unless stated otherwise

your duncan mc millan is there but which one is he? can you give me his parents name please?

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 January 07 04:53 GMT (UK) »
Hello Joe
Thank you for the 1851 census on George Mackay. If this is the George Mackay I am looking for, I would not have considered Caithness as a starting option, particularly when the October 1956 marriage document stated, “normally resident of Culkein, Stoer, Parish of Assynt, age 25, a teacher, married Barbara Morrison”.
This 1851 census was the only census window to find any information on him as he had died before 1861. To date I have had no success with teaching records so now that you have provided me with Caithness as another option I will now add the area to my research.
Thank you for the info Joe, most appreciated.
Donald

My apologies to my slow acknowledgement to your most appreciated census postings. I am slowly getting back to normal computer work following the loss of a hard drive. Although most items were backed up it has taken considerable time to reset. Once again Joe I thank you very much for having done the census lookup for me.
Donald

Mackay of Slannes, Clashneach, Hunleam & general Melness area.
Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 January 07 04:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello Joe
I am a little dubious that this is the Alexander Morrison I am searching for
Salachary, Inveraray is approximately three miles north of Inveraray, while Cumlodden is about seven miles south of Inveraray

On 27 Dec. 1844  Alexanders address was “Cumlodden, by Inveraray."
In 1941 Alexander should have been around age 86years and his wife Marion about 81years
Their family in 1841 consisted of Grizel age 55yrs, Hugh age 53yrs, & John age 47yrs  I do not know where thy were living.
There were three married sons living in Melness, Donald and two George’s.
I do not know whether wife Marion was alive in 1841.


Re Duncan McMillan. I have no further information on Duncan and was hopeful a 1851 or 1861 census might throw some background on him. I was hopeful there would be only one 3yr old Duncan McMillan in the 1851 Census & a 13yrs old in the 1861 census at Bellochantuy, Argyllshire,

Joe were there many Duncan McMillan children at Bellochantuy in 1851 & 1861 ??.
Thanks again for your lookups
Donald
Mackay of Slannes, Clashneach, Hunleam & general Melness area.
Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 January 07 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donald,

I'm not sure if this article is relevant to your search but have a look anyway

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bratach/september%202001/sept%2001%20Harris%20fishermen.html

Regards

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Re: John Mackay of Oldshoremore 1700 / 1800 period – includes Morrison & Ross
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 January 07 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello Andy,
Thank you for the info. Although none of those persons in the article are directly related in my research, they do assist in putting together other time frames, plus I will on-send the schoolteacher items to a person who has done a considerable amount of research in; education, schools and relevant teachers in Sutherland.
Thanks again
Donald NZ
Mackay of Slannes, Clashneach, Hunleam & general Melness area.
Morrison of Kinlochbervie, Achriesgill, Strathmore, and general Melness area
Ross and McKenzie of Achriesgill, & general Kinlochbervie area.