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1851 census lookup please
« on: Friday 05 May 06 21:02 BST (UK) »
Hi..please could someone do a 1851 and 1861 and 1871 census look up ..
william dummer b 1824 margam
mary wife..
edward b 1866 ..
  i am after full details please.. thankyou,,,,, sorry just realised i entered this message in the "wrong area"..sorry
Mary jane Evans born 1876 st nicholas, wenvoe, cardiff.
wenvoe

Daniel  Thomas Harris born  sirhowy, bedwellty, tredegar, monmouthshire

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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 May 06 21:35 BST (UK) »
All born Margam - occupations not easy to make out
1871
4 Dan y Groes Cottages  rg10/5423 87 5 23
William 46 collier
Mary 45
Sarah 20   Rubber Tin Worker?
William 13 Washman?
Elizabeth 15 Rubber Tin?
John 13 Lister?
Margaret 11 Scholar
Thomas 7
Edward 5
Evan 2
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 May 06 21:46 BST (UK) »
1861 Dan y Groes Cottages Broughtover? rg9/4080 114 12 71
William 37 miner
Mary 36
Mary 13 Scholar
Elinor 12 Scholar
Sarah 10 Scholar
William Llewellyn 7  (this age makes more sense as otherwise in wrong position in 1871)
Elizabeth 5
John 3
Margaret 1
all born Margam   
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 May 06 22:04 BST (UK) »
1851 is really difficult to read on Ancestry. Perhaps someone has a better copy.
Dan y Groes B? H0107/2462 94 26 86
William 26 collier
Mary 26
Elinor 4?
Mary
Sarah 2?  ages seem to be awry
Elinor? Llewellyn visitor 21 employed in Iron works (Llewellyn could be Mary's maiden name considering William's middle name)
(transcribed as) Emmor? Leyshon visitor 11. 
Writing is very faint and I can't read Mr/Ms' Leyshon's first name at all.
Hope this helps. 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 May 06 22:34 BST (UK) »
possible marriages for Elinor and Mary.
Mary Dummer 2Q 1869 Neath 11a 729 m William Howells(only other name on page)

Eleanor Dummer 2Q 1868 Neath 11a 676 John Lewis or Lewis Williams
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 May 06 13:47 BST (UK) »
1851:
Danygroes, Bryn
William Dummer hd m 26 collier b . margam
Mary Dummer wi m 26 colliers wife b. Margam
Elinor Dummer da u 4 b. margam
Sarah Dummer da u 2 b. margam
Elinor Lewelyn cl u 21 employed in ironworks b. margam
Elinor Leyshon vr u 11 house serant b. margam
Mary Dummer da u 4 b. margam

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 May 06 15:15 BST (UK) »
And heres William in 1841 mistranscribed as Dumer.Margam Neath. John Dumer/60/Lab/Elizabeth Dumer/55/Edward Dumer/20/Collier/Thomas Dumer/20/Collier/William Dumer/15/Haulier/David Dumer/14/Haulier/Samuel Dumer/12.According to the 1851 census John Dummer is born 1772 in Bristol Somerset and now a Farmer of 22 acres Elizabeth is born 1786 in Margam..And heres their marriage in Pyle/Kenfig Glamorgan on 13th May 1813 John Dummer (Margam)married Elizabeth David.Best Wishes Welsh Lady
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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
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Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 May 06 16:22 BST (UK) »
Thankyou both so much.. mystery solved as to where John Dummer born and when.. thanks again.. jui
Mary jane Evans born 1876 st nicholas, wenvoe, cardiff.
wenvoe

Daniel  Thomas Harris born  sirhowy, bedwellty, tredegar, monmouthshire

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 07:42 BST (UK) »
Hia.. thankyou to You all that have  helped on this one..
       I have gone into total confusion .. because it has been said that John dummer was  born in Bristol, and evidently He wasent, because there were no Dummer births in Bristol... apparently on the marriage records it states that he was born  and married in margam..i believe there were two john Dummers in margam ...as there were four marriages on parish records.. i have been told he married 2xs.. looks like  those 2 marriages found..  margaret David...1801.. and Elizabeth David....going to check if and how they were related if they were.. i would think sisters or couzins.. i hope.. ) looking at the family search records .. there is no John Dummer born in margam........
   looking at the one name study done John came to margam 1801.. possibly from lacock.. aaaaaaaaaaww ......... i would like to investigate this further.. and wonder how do you go about looking up parish records.. can you do it from your own computer..or do you have to visit  a office or church....i would like to go back further with my tree.. and therefore would like to get this right.. any advice please?
      Thankyou again.. takecare....jui
Mary jane Evans born 1876 st nicholas, wenvoe, cardiff.
wenvoe

Daniel  Thomas Harris born  sirhowy, bedwellty, tredegar, monmouthshire