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zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« on: Sunday 07 May 06 08:58 BST (UK) »
can anyone help or advise me regarding zipporah williamson born 1876 in mottram,cheshire.i have a census from 1881 with zipporah(zepporah) living in 7 greenfield st,glossop dale,derbys with her aunts/uncles and grandparents...no sign of mother or father....was glossop dale the old name for glossop??? how far is mottram from glossop dale??....would like to find zipporahs mother and father....i have her parents and grandfather,but her parents are a missing link...any help appreciated...kind regards...allan
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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:04 BST (UK) »
Zipporah Williamson born June qtr 1876 Hayfield Derbyshire 7b 810.

Hayfield will be a registration district not to be confused with the place she might be living.

You can order her birth certificate online at www.gro.gov.uk at a cost of £7 which will give you her parents names, including mother's maiden name and their occupations.  Unless you can find the baptism entry at the local Records Office then this is your best bet for getting their names and so help you to continue.

You could also give the full details from the 1881 census and we could try and find the family in earlier censuses and try to identify who were the parents, mahybe by process of elimination of other familiy members, but this wouldn't be definitive, only the certificate will prove absolutely.
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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:05 BST (UK) »
The mother might well be there in 1881 too... Selena or Charlotte are the right age...

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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:13 BST (UK) »
thanks girls...she married in sept 1991 which makes her just 15yrs of age...her daughter martha was my gandmother..will check out census again ...regards..allan
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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:18 BST (UK) »
just checked census again regarding charlotte and selena...possible mothers....will have to try and get birth cert...cheers...allan
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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:23 BST (UK) »
Well I agree that they are possible mothers, but because of the birthplace I wondered whether there was an older child in the family, not showing up in 1871.

25 Gladstone Street, Glossop, Derbyshire
Margery Williamson Wife M 45 Housekeeper York Penistone
Charlotte daur U 18 Cotton Frame Tenter Derby Glossop
Selina daur U 13 Cotton Weavers Tenter " "
Sarah Anne daur 9 Scholar " "
Arthur Son 7 " " "
James Henry Son 3      " "
RG10/3642 Hayfield, Glossop Folio 6 Page 3
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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:28 BST (UK) »
This might possibly give some answers - 1861
Yorkshire Street, Glossop
James Williamson Head M 30 Cotton Spinner Chester Hyde
Margery Wife M 32 York Penistone
Charles Kay Williamson Son 16 Cotton Piecer Derby Glossop
Charlotte daur 9 Scholar " "
Thomas Son 7 " Chester Hyde
Selina Son? 3 " Derby Glossop (Son has been written in but the age put in the female column)
RG9/2549 Hayfield, Glossop Folio 8 Page 14
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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:33 BST (UK) »
James Williamson married Margery Kaye June qtr 1851 Hayfield, Derbyshire 19 581.  That accounts for where Charles got his middle name!
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: zipporah williamson..7 greenfield st,glossop dale
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:39 BST (UK) »
I wonder why James wasn't with the family in 1871?  But this also might be another contender for father of Zipporah.
37 Manchester Street, Hyde, Cheshire
Family is William Marsh, a carter and linen draper, with his wife Mary and son JOhn William and sister Ann, strangely the daughter Christiana Marsh 2 months is listed after the Williamsons.
James Williamson Lodger M 41 Cotton Spinner Hyde Cheshire
Thomas Williamson Lodger Unm 17 Cotton Piecer Hyde Cheshire
RG10/3651 Stockport Hyde Folio 135 Page 29
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