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Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« on: Monday 05 June 06 22:29 BST (UK) »
She was my great grandmother, though noone seems to know why she was given the above names!

I know she was daughter of William Turnbull and Elizabeth Appleton, and was born 1888 in Leadgate, Co Durham, died 1954.

I have nothing else on the Turnbull line prior to William, so am intrigued where her various names seem to have come from, as they seem to be surnames rather than obvious christian names.

Interested in anything anyone can offer, am doing quite well with other lines of research, but this Turnbull line proving to be my brick wall.
Wilcock - Billinge, Lancashire
Greaves - Yorkshire
Cooper - Durham
Bootland - Yorkshire/Northumberland
Kirsop - Yorkshire/Newcastle/Durham
Appleton - Durham
Atherton - Lancashire
Belton - Durham
Harker - Northumberland
Littler - Lancashire
Rigby - Lancashire
Turnbull - Durham
Waistell/Wastell/Wastol - Durham
Milburn - Durham
Robinson - Durham

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 June 06 23:05 BST (UK) »
You don't say if you have them on any census. That is the best way to try and trace the family backwards and may even give a few clues. Quite a big family.

1901 census

Watling Street Leadgate

William Turnbull Head age 57 Mining Engineer b. Sherburn, Durham
Elizabeth Turnbull wife age 49 b. Simpton, Yorkshire
 Elizabeth Jane Turnbull dau age 21  b. Chilton, Durham
Margaret H Turnbull dau age 20 School Teacher  b. Chilton, Durham
William son age 19 Engine Fitter b Chilton
Ernest Turnbull son age 17 Engine Fitter  b. Chilton, Durham
Frederick Turnbull son age 14 b. Leadgate, Durham
S C R Turnbull dau age 12  b. Leadgate, Durham
Albert P Turnbull son age 9 b. Leadgate, Durham
Frederick Turnbull son age 14 b. Leadgate, Durham
Mary Ada Turnbull dau age 11 b. Leadgate, Durham
Maurie Turnbull son age 3  b. Leadgate, Durham

RG13/4669  Lanchester  Folio 53,  Page 24

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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 June 06 23:07 BST (UK) »
This looks like William with his parents before he married.

1871 census:
RG10/4972/80/8
Seaton, Durham

John Turnbull - Head - 68 - Engineer - b Oxclose, Durham
Barbary Turnbull - 63 - b Painshaw, Durham
Elizabeth J Turnbull - Dau - 28 - b Hetton, Durham
William Turnbull - Son - 25 - Engineer Fitter - b Sherburn Tilla (?Villa), Duham
Margaret H Turnbull - Dau - 23 - b Sherburn Tilla, Durham


1861:
RG9/3776/35/4
Ryhope Cottage, Ryhope

John Turnbull - Head - 58 - Engineer - b Oxclose, Durham
Barbra Turnbull - Wife - 50 - b Painshaw, Durham
Ann Bailey Turnbull - Dau - 29 - b Rainton, Durham
Elizabeth Jane Turnbull - Dau - 21 - b Easington, Durham
William Turnbull - Son - 19 - b Shincliffe, Durham
Margaret Hannah Turnbull - Dau - 14 - b Shincliffe, Durham


1851:
HO107/2391/294/24
Shincliffe, Durham

John Turnbull - Head - 48 - Engineer - b Washington, Durham
Barbara Turnbull - Wife - 44 - b Pensher, Durham
Ann B Turnbull - Dau - 20 - b Houghton-le-Spring, Durham
Mary Turnbull - Dau - 18 - b Houghton-le-Spring, Durham
Matthew Turnbull - Son - 15 - Scholar - b Easington, Durham
Elizth Jane Turnbull - Dau - 12 - Scholar - b Easington, Durham
John B Turnbull - Son - 9 - Scholar - b Sunderland, Durham
William Turnbull - Son - 7 - Scholar - b Shincliffe, Durham
Margaret H Turnbull - Dau 4 - Scholar - b Shincliffe, Durham


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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 June 06 23:17 BST (UK) »
1891 census

Pont House Leadgate


William Turnbull  Head age 50 Colliery Engineer b. Sherburn 
Elizabeth wife age 40  b. Kirklington  Norfolk
John A  son age 14  b. Dean Bridge , Durham
Elizabeth J  dau age 12  b. Dene Bridge, Durham
Margaret H  dau age 10  b. Dene Bridge, Durham
William H  son age 9 b. Dene Bridge, Durham
Ernest B son age 6  b Dene .Bridge, Durham
Frederick son age 4 b.Dene  Bridge, Durham
Mary A dau age 1  b. Leadgate, Durham,
Sarah C R W dau age 2  b. Leadgate, Durham
Elizabeth Appleton servant age 18 b Marton Village Yorkshire

RG12/4092  Lanchester 
Folio 27 
Page 54
 
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi


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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 June 06 23:25 BST (UK) »
Just to confuse the issue there is this family in 1841

Sherburn Hospital, Durham ( also known as Sherbern House I believe)
Thomas Turnbull   40      ag lab      not born in county
Sarah                    35                                "
Sarah                    14                                "
Isabella                 12                                "
George                  10                           born in county
Mary                      6                                  "
William                  4                                  "
Dorothy                2                                   "

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E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 June 06 23:27 BST (UK) »
1881

Dene Bridge Colliery Cottage
 
William Turnbull Head age 38 Mechanical Engineer b. Sherburn House,
Elizabeth Turnbull wife age 30  b.Simpton, Yorkshire
John Appleton Turnbull son age 4  b. Dene Bridge, Durham
Eliz.Jane Turnbull dau age 2  b. Dene Bridge, Durham
Mgt. Hannah Turnbull dau age  9 months b.Dene Bridge, Durham
Mary Jane Forster servant age 18 General servant  b. Sunderland Bridge, Durham
Henry Osbourne Mc Cabe Lodger age 24 Mining Engineer b. New South Wales, Australia

RG11/4903  Stockton 
Folio 4 Page 1

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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 June 06 23:29 BST (UK) »
No clues on any of those census. We need to sort out a few marriages ;)
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 00:02 BST (UK) »
1841 census

Thomas Street Sunderland


John Turnbull age 30 Engineer
Barbara Turnbull age 30
Ann age 10
Mary Turnbull age 8
Matthew Turnbull age 5
Elizabeth Turnbull age 2
Mary Dent age 15

All born in the County

HO107/321/6  Sunderland  Folio 4  Page 3 

Although I can find John and Barabara on Family Search with some of their children her maiden name is never given. It may be worth sending for one of their children's birth certs to see if it corresponds with one of Sarah's names

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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Mystery Woman! - SARAH CATHERINE ROLAND WILSON TURNBULL
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 June 06 05:47 BST (UK) »
Strawberry Mivvy,

I'm a bit puzzled that you say you have come to a brick wall re William TURNBULL ...

Do you not have the marriage certificate of William TURNBULL and Elizabeth APPLETON?
From FreeBMD
William TURNBULL, marriage, Mar qtr 1875, Easington, Vol 10a,  Page 585
An Elizabeth APPLETON is on the same page.

That should at least have given you the name and occupation of William's father?

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