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PATTISWICK & THAXTED TURNERS
« on: Wednesday 07 June 06 04:24 BST (UK) »
I am looking for other children of William Turner and Elizabeth Betts who married in 1799 at Pattiswick, I have the following children, all baptised in Pattiswick:-
Joseph 11 May 1800.
Lucy 26 Mar 1802 (my ancestor).
Sarah 10 Jun 1804.
William 2 Apr 1810.
John 27 May 1812.

Is anyone else researching this family or have knowledge of them?

I am exploring the possibility of the above family being descended from that of William Turner who married  Mary Warran/Warren at Thaxted in 1774.  A son William baptised 1775 at Thaxted fits the bill nicely to be the William Turner who married Elizabeth Betts at Pattiswick.  Earlier this year whilst in the UK I established that William 1775 of Thaxted did not marry in Thaxted.  A search of Thaxted burial registers 1774 to 1805 did not reveal a burial there.

If anyone has the Thaxted Turners in their tree or has knowledge of them I would like to hear from you please.
Concentrating currently on:
Essex: Card, Harris, Stowell, Theobald/Tibbles & Turner.
Norfolk: Beale, Cork & Dalton.
Yorkshire: Oswald Sturdy birth/baptism c1708, Oswald where the devil are you?

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Re: PATTISWICK & THAXTED TURNERS
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 17:52 BST (UK) »
Think you might have a mix up of dates here! William Turner bap 1775 in Thaxted cannot marry in 1780 in Pattswick as he would only be aged 5!!

Have you ever found your William's death? the one who married in 1780 and produced the family you are descended from, and wish to know if there were more?

The reason I ask, is that if he left a Will, it could be a useful source to find names of all his surviving children.
just an idea.

Actually, looking again at the info you give, it seeems unlikely that Wills & Eliz, marrying in 1780 produced their family over 20 years later in 1800 - 1812.
Definitely something awry with these dates!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: PATTISWICK & THAXTED TURNERS
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 June 06 01:05 BST (UK) »
Hi lizdb,
Thanks for pointing out that glaring error, I don't how I came to make such a silly mistake, probably age related! obviously I didn't read my post!!!

The year of marriage should have been 1799, 1780 was the year Elizabeth Betts was baptised, I've corrected it now.

No I haven't checked out Wills or William and Elizabeth's burials yet, I hope to do that on my next visit to the UK in 2008.  I was over there in Essex this year and spent quite a lot of time just investigating numerous William Turners.  My wife and I were over there mainly to celebrate my mother's 100th birthday.  While we were there she became ill and confined to bed, so my wife stayed home to help my sister cope, instead researching at the ERO with me.  Consequently I had to prioritise my long list and some items had to be left for another time (2008), "them's the breaks"

Regards. 
Concentrating currently on:
Essex: Card, Harris, Stowell, Theobald/Tibbles & Turner.
Norfolk: Beale, Cork & Dalton.
Yorkshire: Oswald Sturdy birth/baptism c1708, Oswald where the devil are you?

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: PATTISWICK & THAXTED TURNERS
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 June 06 12:33 BST (UK) »
It all makes a lot more sense now!!!!!

have you found William and Eliz
Joseph
lucy (maybe married)
William
John

on 1851,61,71,81,91,01 censuses?

I had a quick look on th e1851 index and there are some probables, but I do not have subscription to Ancestry to look further for you.

If you havent got the details I suggest you ask for look ups of all these on the appropiate Essex Board. Someone will be sure to help, and you will find out a lot more about the family.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: PATTISWICK & THAXTED TURNERS
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 June 06 05:04 BST (UK) »
Hi lizdb,
I have two children of the Turners from the 1841 Pattiswick census, John & William.  Their 1841 ages match the Pattiswick baptisms of a John and William but of course the 1841 doesn't give birthplaces, by that time they were married with families of their own.

There is one significant  family on the 1841 Pattiswich census, that of Joseph Turner aged 59 which would see him born around 1782.  He would be in the right age group to be the brother of the William (circa 1775) I am interested in finding.

I think I skipped the 1851 Pattiswick Census for Lucy Turner (baptised 1802), probably  because I found her in the 1851 Coggeshall Census married to my ancestor Joseph Harris.  Joseph & Lucy baptised two children with Turner as a middle name, so then of course I went straight to Pattiswick PRs.

I will put in an 1851 lookup request for Pattiswick Turners especially any with Thaxted birhplaces.  I would still like to hear from anyone connected with this family though. 


I did my Pattiswick research many years ago and recently resurrected it for my UK trip this year, I have been until now concentrating on some of the other branches.

Regards.
Concentrating currently on:
Essex: Card, Harris, Stowell, Theobald/Tibbles & Turner.
Norfolk: Beale, Cork & Dalton.
Yorkshire: Oswald Sturdy birth/baptism c1708, Oswald where the devil are you?

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk