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1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« on: Thursday 08 June 06 08:31 BST (UK) »
Hi there, I'd be extremely grateful if someone could look up Jeremiah Crump born around 1798, in the 1821 census in Wellington, Shropshire. I have found Jeremiah in the 1841 living with his second wife Ann and family. I think at the time of the 1821 he could be living with his first wife Martha. I'm hoping there may be a clue to his parents somewhere!

Many thanks!
CRUMP: Shropshire, West Bromwich
BLISS: Wales, Shropshire
MILES: Herefordshire, Birmingham
FRAMPTON: Fordingbridge, Frogham
INGS: Ibsley, Frogham
CLEWER: Bromyard, Birmingham
BAGSHAW: Birmingham
SLADEN: Gloucestershire, Wales
WALTERS/WATERS: Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire, Birmingham
JOHNSON: Birmingham, Canada
FLETCHER: Birmingham
YELF: Hampshire
FLEMINGTON: Fordingbridge
MASON: Bucknell Shrops
BYTHEWAY: Bucknell
WHITMORE: Herefordshire, Shropshire
POSTON: Church Stretton, Milton

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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 June 06 16:19 BST (UK) »
1821 census

Jeremiah Crump 34 Labourer in Husbandry
Martha 38
William Harris 3 yes 3 Lodger

Living in Walker Street


also

Jeremiah Crump 78 Labourer in Husbandry
Mary Harris 58
William Crump 49

Living in ASton


There are 16 Crumps in total mentioned
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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 June 06 16:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike, thanks so much for that.  This is the problem I have, my Jeremiah states in the 1841 that he is 43, however the key thing here is that the second wife of Jeremiah, Ann and their kids (Jeremiah died in 1844) are living in Walker St in the 1851 census. May be a big coincidence, but unlikely. So having the street really helps, thank you!

I now just need to figure out who Jeremiah's parents are. I've always noticed a pedigree resource file on the IGI, which has a big line of Jeremiah Crump's from the Wellington/Wrekin Hill area, but have always been a bit tentative about assuming that it's my family. Especially with the near 10 year age difference problem with the Jeremiah's, but this is another step closer!


Many thanks again,

Lesley
CRUMP: Shropshire, West Bromwich
BLISS: Wales, Shropshire
MILES: Herefordshire, Birmingham
FRAMPTON: Fordingbridge, Frogham
INGS: Ibsley, Frogham
CLEWER: Bromyard, Birmingham
BAGSHAW: Birmingham
SLADEN: Gloucestershire, Wales
WALTERS/WATERS: Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire, Birmingham
JOHNSON: Birmingham, Canada
FLETCHER: Birmingham
YELF: Hampshire
FLEMINGTON: Fordingbridge
MASON: Bucknell Shrops
BYTHEWAY: Bucknell
WHITMORE: Herefordshire, Shropshire
POSTON: Church Stretton, Milton

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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 June 06 21:57 BST (UK) »
Did you feel there might be a connection between Mary Harris and William Harris and so perhaps Jeremiah Snr was father to Jeremiah Jnr??????
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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 June 06 23:02 BST (UK) »
I think there is a very good chance that Jeremiah 78, is my Jeremiah's father, the IGI lists Jeremiah Crump born 1743, Wrekin Hill married to Margaret Stanworth in Wellington 1768. I have no idea who the Harris family are. Martha's last name was Briscoe, so maybe it could be her mother's name.

Jeremiah Crump and Martha Briscoe married in Wellington in 1814, but I have no idea if they had any children.

Best Regards,

Lesley
CRUMP: Shropshire, West Bromwich
BLISS: Wales, Shropshire
MILES: Herefordshire, Birmingham
FRAMPTON: Fordingbridge, Frogham
INGS: Ibsley, Frogham
CLEWER: Bromyard, Birmingham
BAGSHAW: Birmingham
SLADEN: Gloucestershire, Wales
WALTERS/WATERS: Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire, Birmingham
JOHNSON: Birmingham, Canada
FLETCHER: Birmingham
YELF: Hampshire
FLEMINGTON: Fordingbridge
MASON: Bucknell Shrops
BYTHEWAY: Bucknell
WHITMORE: Herefordshire, Shropshire
POSTON: Church Stretton, Milton

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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, is it possible for you to list the other Crump families in the area at the time? It may give me a much needed clue!

Many thanks,

Lesley
CRUMP: Shropshire, West Bromwich
BLISS: Wales, Shropshire
MILES: Herefordshire, Birmingham
FRAMPTON: Fordingbridge, Frogham
INGS: Ibsley, Frogham
CLEWER: Bromyard, Birmingham
BAGSHAW: Birmingham
SLADEN: Gloucestershire, Wales
WALTERS/WATERS: Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire, Birmingham
JOHNSON: Birmingham, Canada
FLETCHER: Birmingham
YELF: Hampshire
FLEMINGTON: Fordingbridge
MASON: Bucknell Shrops
BYTHEWAY: Bucknell
WHITMORE: Herefordshire, Shropshire
POSTON: Church Stretton, Milton

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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 January 07 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Crump in 1821 Wellington census

John 14 servant New St

Thomas 17 prob servant Market Pl

Jeremiah 34 Lab in Husbandry Walker St
Martha 38

Jeremiah 78 Lab in Husbandry Aston
William 49 Aston

John 50 Farmer Hadley
Esther 45
John 11
Elizabeth 9
Robert 5
Thomas 5
William 3
Samuel 2
John 17 servant
Elizabeth 70

Hope it helps
Mike
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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 January 07 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Mike, it all helps. I think John may be Jeremiah's son.

I don't suppose you know if Broseley had a census taken in 1821?

Many thanks again, much appreciated.

Lesley
CRUMP: Shropshire, West Bromwich
BLISS: Wales, Shropshire
MILES: Herefordshire, Birmingham
FRAMPTON: Fordingbridge, Frogham
INGS: Ibsley, Frogham
CLEWER: Bromyard, Birmingham
BAGSHAW: Birmingham
SLADEN: Gloucestershire, Wales
WALTERS/WATERS: Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire, Birmingham
JOHNSON: Birmingham, Canada
FLETCHER: Birmingham
YELF: Hampshire
FLEMINGTON: Fordingbridge
MASON: Bucknell Shrops
BYTHEWAY: Bucknell
WHITMORE: Herefordshire, Shropshire
POSTON: Church Stretton, Milton

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Re: 1821 Wellington Look Up - Crump
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 January 07 13:14 GMT (UK) »
As far as I know it was only Wellington and surrounding villages

Mike
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