NSW and/or VIC BDM Lookups pls PARKER/DENNER family

[trish251]

Are you sure the William is yours? If so - very pleased to find it. 
If you look on the NSW site for deaths Elizabeth Parker parents James and mary, there is a death about 1950 (would make her a goodly age!) It was the only possible I saw.  Did you know that for a lesser fee ($10 I think) the transcript agents will check if the record is yours - do the full transcript if correct - otherwise just charge the lesser fee. It would probably be worth the $10 to check the 1940 death. If correct, you should get lots of good information. If it is not yours - you can ignore my suggestion in future    

Hi OzBob

Unfortunately those  parents aren't correct for Eliza, but the WWI record is correct. He is also on the CWGC site as well.

Look him up here if you don't know the site AC

http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14

PARKER, JOHN HENRY
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
Unit Text: 45th Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 07/08/1916
Service No: 1823
Additional information: Son of John and Eliza Parker, of Warraderry St., Grenfell, New South Wales.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL


Trish

[Robert Coble]

Ally
Possables Death for Eliza or Elizabeth Parker (nee Dinner)
30639/1950  PARKER  ELIZABETH CATHERINE  JAMES WILLIAM  MARY  GOSFORD   
1527/1929   PARKER  ELIZA  JOHN  JANE  PORT MACQUARIE. (Could this be her son & Wife )   
19833/1927  PARKER  ELIZA  JOHN  KATHLEEN  MARRICKVILLE   ( the same here her Son & Wife)

Death:
9060/1943  MCCARRON  ELIZA - JAMES + MARY ANN = DUBBO




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Hi Trish,
 

OzyBob

[allycat]

Dear Trish, Thank you for the Cmwlth War Dead info.  I hadn't seen that before.  And I don't think the William PARKER you found was part of the same particular family after all.  But perhaps they were cousins?  Shall leave that to another time, it's all to easy to go on wild goose chases I've discovered, and it is better to keep things simple and research one family thoroughly at one time.

Dear Bob, The first Eliza you found looks like is my ancestor.  Shall probably purchase transcript to see.  The 1943 death of Eliza McCarron, that is my ancestor's sister.

Just to enlighten you, it looks like my ggg grandparents James DENNER and Mary Ann PINE called one daughters Elizabeth and the next one Eliza born 6 years later.  Why oh why did they do that?  It's made it very hard for me over the years genie-wise, until you guys have helped me to sort things out.

Thank you both.  Ally.

[sparrett]

And off the subject again!
I agree that it is a sad thing about First Families.
It holds an enormous amount of really valuable [not just useful and interesting ] information - That is once you find your way into it which is not straight forward.
  I am afraid that one day, as it just sits as a site no longer growing, that it will simply disappear and all that great stuff with it.
 Even though you can' reach the email listers, it can fill in bits for you.
Sue

[allycat]

Dear Sue, I agree wholeheartedly.  I suggested elsewhere that maybe we should start out own First Families in Australia site on Rootschat (not trying to offend the original inhabitants of our blessed Country).  With everyone having their own surname interest page from their emigree first family.

Al.

[tropicalj]

Hello there Ally

in 1930 ther is a death at grenfell for JOHN PARKER

no henry as a midle name  but that doesnt appear on the marriage details either

his parent JAMES and ELLEN

NOW INTERESTINLY THEY HAD A DAUGHTER esther born IN 1860  AND THAT IS THE NAME OF ONE OF HIS DAUGHTERS ISNT IT
NOW james died 1881 IN GRENFELL PARENTS CLEMENTS AND MARY
 ELLEN DIED in 1906 parents james and elizabeth  in Grenfell

now i know it does get expensive  but to get any further  you just may have to buy the record and see what happens
i know we have all done this and come up empty but boy when it is right dont we go forward then

as they say the truth is out there



regards jenn

[sharonsteinberg47]

parker Dinner family...the family in Victoria have nothing to do with Eliza Dinner who married john Henry parker in Grenfell NSW and lived there until she died in 1903. The Eliza Dinner in Victoria Married a McCarron. Eliza's death certificate clearly states she was the daughter of Samuel and Caroline James, she was born in Sofala, NSW. Samuel and Caroline married when he and she had served part of their sentence. Samuel came from Bristol or near there. and Caroline came from Somerset. samuel sentenced to 10 years for picking pockets. Caroline for theft. All this is fairly easy to find in TROVE Ancestry NSW BDM, so why have Eliza die in 1897 instead of in Grenfell in 1903? Is it because no one wants to own to Samuel Dinner who ended his days in 1878 in ryde lunatic asylum? all the trees tha thave her born to parents in Victoria are all incorrect.

[allycat]

Thanks Sharon.  I'm a descendant that is quite happy to uncover the truth.  I certainly don't mind if I find even more Convicts in the family tree than I already knew about.  I still have a feeling that there were two separate families - Dinners and Denners.  And my ancestors were the Dinners from Bristol.  Thanks for your contribution.

[Billyblue]

Ally
Have you considered contacting the Grenfell Historical Society?
They've been going for 50 years so must have a fair collection of information.

some years ago, I contacted them at the suggestion of someone else, to see if the DC I had for one Patrick FINN who we thought was my mum's grandfather, was correct. (It showed that he was born in Grenfell c1818)  Their secretary very kindly perused the local Court records and told me that Grenfell didn't exist in 1818 and their record says he was born in Ireland!   So you may be lucky, too  (the answer was what we wanted, incidentally      )

You might have to resort to snailmail - I can't find a web address though they do have a phone number listed.
Dawn M