1841 census Belper - Walker

[Mickleover]

I should be grateful if someone is able to find Ann Walker and her family in Belper in the 1841 census. She was born in Belper c.1823. (Ann married a James Attenborough c. 1842 and at least one of her children was born in Belper (1857).)

Thank you.

Regards,

Ian

[nettle]

Hello Ian,

There are at least three possibilities on the 1841 census in Belper so do you have any more info. Do you have her fathers name from her marriage certificate or a particular address in Belper?

Thanks.

[Mickleover]

Nettle,

Thanks for your help. So far I have been unable to find the marriage certificate despite the help of the registrar at Amber Valley. So I opted for a birth certificate to confirm Ann's maiden name. This does give a location so it might help: Ann's son Isaac was born on the 16th December 1859 at Short Rows, Belper. The names of her other sons are James (after her husband?) and William (after her father/father-in-law?). The oldest child was born 1843/4 at Belper.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ian

[nettle]

The three possible Anns that i can see have fathers William, Joseph and Isaac. Ages are of course supposed to be rounded down to nearest 5. Going by Anns age alone, makes Isaac the likely father, with her age being given as 15 whereas the other two are 20. However, this is not reliable. you may have to keep looking for the elusive marriage cert.

If you send me a Personal Message with your email address i can send you the census pages.

keith.

[nettle]

hi again,

have just found on FreeBMD website a marriage ref transcribed as a "James Attenborow" in Belper, 3Q 1842. BUT, there is no reference for an Ann Walker at the same date. Confusing!

I have to leave work now - but will log on again later.

Nettle.

[janan]

I've checked the images for that marriage but sadly no Ann Walker on the same page
Jan

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Could it be a second marriage for Ann, her maiden name would still be shown on the birth certificate of children from her second marriage.

In 1851 I can see Isaac WALKER with his widowed daughter Ann,

1851  HO107/2144  f.536  p.24  Belper

No. 21 Birkin Court

Isaac WALKER    Head  Widow  60  Retired Nail Maker                          Derbyshire Belper
Ann HUNT          Daur  Widow  28  Employed at Cotton Spinning Factory        "  "
William WRAGG  Lodger   Unm    39       "    "            "  "                                 "  "
Jeremiah SMITH   "  "     Unm   35   Framework Knitter                      Nottinghamshire

There is this marriage,

Ann WALKER  Mar Q  1843  Belper  v.19  p.327 
Matthew HUNT (amongst other names)

If Nettle has sent you the image you can see Matthew HUNT was living in the same household as Isaac & Ann WALKER in 1841.

This could be Matthews death,

Matthew WALKER  Mar Q 1845  Belper  v.19  p.359

Then there is this marriage,

Ann HUNT  Jun Q  1857  Derby  v.7b  p.599
(amongst other names) James ATTENBOROUGH

In 1861 I can see this family which seems to include your Isaac, transcribed as HATTERBOROUGH, I think it looks like HATTENBOROUGH

1861  RG9/2509  f.104  p.8  Belper

Short Row

James HATTENBOROUGH       Head  40  Collier 
Ann                                  Wife  38  Mill Hand
Hannah                            Daur    8  Scholar
Ann                                  Daur   3
Isaac                                Son    1

All born Belper.

This all seem to fit apart from you mention the oldest child was born 1843/4, I can't find any children born around then in 1851 except a John ATTENBURY, b.1847 who is the son of a widowed Mary Ann ATTENBURY, who to confuse things further is living at home with her parents, John and Ruth WALKER

Also where does daughter Hannah fit in

Now I've confused myself

Regards
Daisy

[janan]

Could Hannah be from James first marriage? And could this be him in 51? If so looks like he remarried into the family. But where is Mrs Attenbury?
Jan

Market Place, Belper
Samuel Hunt Head Mar 51 Beerhousekeeper Derbys Belper
Hannah do Wife 44 Belper
Hannah do Dau 8 Errand girl do
James Attenbury Son in Law Married 28 Brickmaker Derby Spondon
Hannah Hunt Cousin U Houservant Belper
Samuel do do 19 Nail maker do
and 2 lodgers and a servant
HO107/2144/569 Pg11
 

[Daisypetal]

I can see this marriage,

James ATTENBOROUGH  Dec Q 1847  Derby  v.19  p.531
(amongst other names) Mary Ann HUNT

Could it be him

Daisy