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Scottish marriage
« on: Tuesday 13 June 06 13:20 BST (UK) »
I've found the marriage I want on Scotlandspeople from 1846.  I gather these are parish registers and there is no image unless I order it.  Would it tell me anything that I don't already know (beyond the date and the names of both parties, that is)?
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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Suttontrust,

have a look here:

Topic: What information is in the OPRs?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,162934.0.html

Bob
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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 06 17:32 BST (UK) »
I've looked at a lot of marriage entries in the OPRs and the information is very hit and miss.  Often it is only the names of the couple and a date i.e. exactly what you see in the index.  Sometimes you get details like an occupation or parish/place of residence.  On one fantastic occassion I got the names of both fathers with their occupations, residences and the fact that one of them was deceased and found out that they got married that day as the husband was off to sea!. 

I would suggest you don't order the extract as 9 times out of ten you will be very disappointed with what you get for your £10.  If you can, you should try to find out what is in the entry as you might just be lucky.  You could try your local LDS family centre and order in the appropriate film.  Or maybe post to the board for the location where the marriage occurred.  Someone may be able to look up the entry in a local library.

Hope this helps
Helen

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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 11:09 BST (UK) »
Check if the marriage is on the IGI. If parent names are given, they are sometimes included in the IGI marriage record.
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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 June 06 17:02 BST (UK) »
I've written a new topic on what you are likely to find in teh Scottish OPRs...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.msg767443.html#msg767443

Cheers,
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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 July 06 08:42 BST (UK) »
Check if the marriage is on the IGI. If parent names are given, they are sometimes included in the IGI marriage record.

This is true, but only if the IGI entry is 'submitted' by another researcher. 'Extracted' references in the IGI don't list the parents' names, even if they were in the original document.

Which reminds me to remind everyone that what the IGI contains are not 'records', in spite of what the IGI says. It is only an index, and conains no original information at all. It is always necessary to track down and check the original document from which the IGI entry was taken.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 July 06 09:10 BST (UK) »
Hi  Forfarian

I guess I should have called them index records; being as the term IGI is an abbreviation including the word index I didn't think this was necessary - so apologies.  I had thought I had found extracted marriage index records with a parent name on the IGI - but I'm not sure if I could ever find them now - they may have been submitted.

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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 July 06 09:11 BST (UK) »
Parents details are sometimes included on extracted marriage records from the OPRs on IGI, for example:

JAMES THOMSON     
     
Parents: Father: JAMES THOMSON    
         
Marriages: Spouse:  MARY ANN HENDERSON    
Marriage:  21 APR 1825   North Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

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Re: Scottish marriage
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 July 06 09:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica

Snap - I just found one too  ;D   ;D    - I knew this marriage included the father as I have a copy of the parish register, so thought I would check the IGI

JEAN JOHNSTON 
Father:  ROBERT MELROSE JOHNSTON
Spouse:  ALEXANDER FALCONER   
Marriage:  25 MAR 1844   Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Messages:  Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. 

Trish

PS  The parish register for this marriage also includes the occupation of groom and Bride's father and the parish of both bride and groom (they were different) so is one of the "best" copies of a parish register I have obtained.


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