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BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« on: Saturday 17 June 06 15:05 BST (UK) »
Dear Rootschatters, Hi.  Just wanting to fill in a few blanks that I have starting with my ggg grandparents.  Online BDM Indexes for NSW already searched by me.

Michael HOY born C1820 unknown location ...probably Australia (hopefully ;) )
   married Ann NEWMAN C1847 born C1820 unknown location

Q.Can anyone find their births or deaths in any States in Aust other than NSW?  And/or when/where they married?

They had two known children, (were there any more?)
1.Margaret HOY born 22 May 1848 Maitland NSW
   married James Patrick HAYES {my gg grandparents...have all details}

2.Catherine HOY born ....... 1849 unknown NSW.
   married 6548/1889 at Walcha NSW to Henry John TOWNSEND
   5 known children:
   a) Leonard CR TOWNSEND b1890 Uralla NSW 34566/1890
   b) Henry JW TOWNSEND b1892 Uralla NSW 35549/1892
   c) Norman CGC TOWNSEND b1895 Uralla NSW 17569/1895
   d) Ethel B TOWNSEND b1898 Uralla NSW 35203/1898
   e) Edith M TOWNSEND b1902 Uralla NSW 7636/1902

Q.Did this couple have any other children?

Q.Did the couple Michael and ANN HOY have any more children either in VIC or other states other than NSW?

All replies gratefully received.  Thanks, Allycat in Queensland.
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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 June 06 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Alleycat

I think this is their marriage........NSW

V1846486 94/1846  HAYE Michael, NEWMAN Anne

Just an idea but have you considered convict connections?

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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 June 06 16:30 BST (UK) »
Back again Alleycat

If you search surname H* you will get broader possibilities, these are likely as well -

V18473117 64/1847 HAY Robert, Michael & Anne
V18491549 66/1849 HAYES Anne, Michael & Anne

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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 June 06 00:18 BST (UK) »
Hello there


with the marriage of catherine  to townsend  are you sure

about this one ie have you traced the family back to it

question arising from it you have catherines births about 1849 but the children are born 1890 to 1902 and peraps after that
she would ave been getting on to be having children thats all  41 for the first plus some not impossible but

it all helps in the equation

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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 June 06 01:46 BST (UK) »
Dear Cazay, Hi.  Thanks for you reply, unfortunately wrong couple, I'm looking for marriage between Michael HOY and Anne NEWMAN approx. 1840s perhaps in NSW, but not necessarily so.

Shall probably look at some convict sites, have plenty in my favourites as I already have a few convicts in the tree (that I'm proud of...poor devils).

I don't know for a fact whether Catherine was sister to my Margaret HOY so Jenn you could be right about logistics of her being too old to be a mother.   ;) Sorry, I should have checked my figures as well.

Margaret HOY and James Patrick HAYES were my gg grandparents.  Family research says Margaret's parents were Michael HOY and Anne NEWMAN.  Basically, that's all I know.  In looking at the NSW bdm Indexes I found a possible sibling of Catherine Hoy and then checked the marriages and found Townsend, then found those 5 children's names born in NSW.  But I could be researching the wrong family.  It can happen.

Q.Can anyone find Michael HOY and Anne NEWMAN for me?

Thanks, Allycat.
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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 June 06 05:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Ally
This does not make sense to your search, but the co-incidence is remarkable given that Michael Hoy seems to be a rare name on the records. So worth passing on I think.

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24

Shows Michael and Ann Hoy entering Victoria in 1850 on the Eliza Caroline.  He is the right age too!!
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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 June 06 05:25 BST (UK) »
PS
A quick glance at the Vic bdm {I'm not equipped to do more} shows no children born in the state to them.  Someone else may look in detail maybe.
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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 June 06 05:43 BST (UK) »
Dear Sue, I just had a look at that site you linked.  Was interesting indeed.  However, their daughter Margaret Hoy (my grandfather's grandmother), going by her birth certificate was born 22 May 1848 at Maitland NSW.  Weird.  Allycat, Qld Aust.
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Re: BDM Lookups HOY/NEWMAN/HAYES family
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 June 06 06:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Ally,
Yes they did have more Childern they are:

V18481825 65/1848  HOY  MARGARET MICHAEL  ANN 
V1849318 67/1849  HOY  CATHERINE  MICHAEL  ANN 


33960/1894  TOWNSEND  JAMES A          HENRY T  CATHERINE  URALLA
Elsie Townsend[/u] 40984/1907. Place:Uralla.
Catherine Townsend [/u]42517/1909. Place: Uralla.
Death:15390/1909  TOWNSEND  CATHERINE - HENRY J + CATHERINE = URALLA
Marie G Townsend[/u] 12366/1915. Place: Uralla.
Hope this helps you Ally.

UPDATES
b:V1849318 67/1849  HOY  CATHERINE - MICHAEL +  ANN
m:6548/1889  TOWNSEND  HENRY JOHN  HOY  CATHERINE  WALCHA
b:V1852895 158/1852  TOWNSEND  HENRY J - HENRY + MARGARET
D:12596/1922  TOWNSEND  HENRY J - HENRY + MARGARET = CANOWINDRA       
Childern:
1.34566/1890  TOWNSEND  LEONARD C R      HENRY J  CATHERINE  URALLA
M:11274/1910  TOWNSEND  LEONARD C R + FRAZIER  MINNIE C = ARMIDALE 

Childern:
1.10054/1911 Townsend Oswald R   Leonard C + Minnie C  Uralla.
2.50473/1912 Townsend Henry J    Leonard C + Minnie C  Uralla.
3.24069/1918 Townsend Olive M    Leonard C + Minnie C  Uralla.

     
2.35549/1892  TOWNSEND  HENRY J W        HENRY J  CATHERINE  URALLA
 D;26576/1965  TOWNSEND  HENRY JOHN W - HENRY JOHN + CATHERINE = PARRAMATTA   
M:13261/1911  TOWNSEND  HENRY J W + GOLDEN  ADA = HILLGROVE

Childern:
1.43637/1912 Townsend William K  Henry J + Ada = Hillgrove.
2.20525/1916 Townsend Joan I     Henry J + Ada = Armidale.


     
3.33960/1894  TOWNSEND  JAMES A          HENRY T  CATHERINE  URALLA
M:8841/1924  TOWNSEND  JAMES A + TICRHURST  CATHERINE W = WELLINGTON 
M:7896/1935  TOWNSEND  JAMES A + POTTER  JEAN = BULLI
     
4.17569/1895  TOWNSEND  NORMAN C G C     HENRY J  CATHERINE  URALLA
M:5734/1926  TOWNSEND  NORMAN C G C + ROYE  PHOEBE P = URALLA
       
5.35203/1898  TOWNSEND  ETHEL B          HENRY J  CATHERINE  URALLA
M:6581/1919  ANDREWS  CLAUDE A + TOWNSEND  ETHEL B = WEST MAITLAND 

6.7636/1902   TOWNSEND  EDITH M          HENRY J  CATHERINE  URALLA   
 M:11703/1935  FARR  CLIFTON J + TOWNSEND  EDITH M = SYDNEY   

Death:15390/1909  TOWNSEND  CATHERINE - HENRY J + CATHERINE = URALLA
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Birth:V1842749 26A/1842  NEWMAN  ANN  WILLIAM  SARAH 

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