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Rosina KING nee GRIFFEY look up please
« on: Monday 24 July 06 17:10 BST (UK) »
Trying to find Rosina Griffey on any censuses prior to 1901.

1901 RG13/143 Folio 59 pg 53

Rosina King nee Griffey b@ 1863 Bideford, Devon

Fathers name on marriage cert 1891 Frederick, occupation: Tailor

I have found a birth for a Rosina Griffey on Freebmd  1862, Bideford

Many thanks

Sue
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Re: Rosina King nee Griffey look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 July 06 18:13 BST (UK) »
Tough one !

There just isnt a Ros* anywhere using Bideford as a PoB 1871-1891 ...

No sign of an a yet trancribed marriage for a Frederick ...

There are 2 Fred's - however, both too young to be her father ... and one changes his name to Frank - altho he and his father William are the only Griffeys I bumped into who were Tailors ...

Bideford is a Griffey stronghold it seems....

I think you are looking for a (illegitimate?) lass who was either brought up by relations, or her mother (re)married- but if so, she isnt using Ros* as a christian name that I could see  .... and when she herself finally married perhaps she used another relatives name as her father to 'cover the trail' - seen this a few times !

I bet the birth cert shows no father - but a mothers name would help us pin things down ... HTH
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Re: Rosina King nee Griffey look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 July 06 18:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue

I see that Rosina married in Pancras in late 1891, so she ought to have been in the area earlier in the year.

Do you have this census entry?  It might be worth noting it for future reference as they are the only Griffeys in town and it seems too much of a coincidence ...

1891 St Pancras (Tottenham Court)
RG12/120 folio 138 page 63
47 Howland Street
William H Griffey, head, widr, 60, tailor, Bideford Devon
Alice do., sister, s, 48 machinist, Bideford Devon

Can we glean any more info from the marriage cert?
Addresses?
Witnesses?

Dave
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Re: Rosina King nee Griffey look up please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 July 06 08:42 BST (UK) »
Dave - thats the tailor I mentioned - in earlier years you will see his 2 sons ...

Alice was 1 of 3 lasses in 1861 Bideford who could have been Rosina's mother ....the Elizabeth is still a spinster and the Lucy marrioed a James Dallen - and they have disappeared too.

Marriage & Birth Cert is the only open angle I'd agree
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Re: Rosina King nee Griffey look up please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 July 06 09:12 BST (UK) »
Theres a Selina Griffey born Bideford Devon c1863 in 14 Victoria Villas, Willesden, Middlesex (Nursemaid for the Walker family) in the 1881 census. Cant find her on the other censuses, can anyone else? RG11/1363 Folio 33 Page 59

I suppose with a broad Devon accent Selina/Rosina could be misheard?
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Rosina King nee Griffey look up please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 July 06 09:18 BST (UK) »
On second thoughts I think in 1871 shes in Clifton with parents Samuel  (a shipwright) and Mary (born "Bedford" Devon, transcribed as Suina Grifey)  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Rosina King nee Griffey look up please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 22:55 BST (UK) »
Selina Griffey born Bideford was my great grandmother. She was one of 5 daughters of Samuel Griffey. I have data on them all.
Geoff 

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Re: Rosina KING nee GRIFFEY look up please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 April 11 13:31 BST (UK) »
Trying to find Rosina Griffey on any censuses prior to 1901.

1901 RG13/143 Folio 59 pg 53

Rosina King nee Griffey b@ 1863 Bideford, Devon

Fathers name on marriage cert 1891 Frederick, occupation: Tailor

I have found a birth for a Rosina Griffey on Freebmd  1862, Bideford

Many thanks

Sue


Hi Sue,
Rosina Griffey is my great great grandmother, she is down as Hall in the censuses if that helps, On my grandfathers birth record it states Mother: Rosina Hall formally Griffey so I am assuming she married a Hall or changed her name Hall.

Thanks
Sarah
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Re: Rosina KING nee GRIFFEY look up please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 April 11 18:18 BST (UK) »
Or......

1871 St Pancras London
Richard Hall 30 Cabinet Maker Middx City of London
Ellen 29 Tailoress Exeter Devon
Rosina 8 Scholar Exeter Devon

1861 Bideford Devon
John Griffey 56 Gardener All born Bideford Devon
Mary 58
Ellen 18

So Ellen has Rosina out of wedlock and then marries Richard Hall? Can't find a marriage for Ellen and Richard though  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov