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Offline DougNZ

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BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« on: Saturday 05 August 06 13:50 BST (UK) »
Hi there

Can anyone find the following four brothers' arrival in NZ?

William Lisson BAILEY, c1857
James Alexander BAILEY, c1857
Walter Ambrose Lucas BAILEY, c1860
Henry George BAILEY, c1872

The first three went goldmining so they may have arrived in the South Island.  Henry settled in the North Island.

Cheers

Doug

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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 August 06 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Doug



Can't help with their arrivals but found the following which you may already have.

Found several sites in connection with this family, but you are probably already aware that there are others out there looking for them.

Found the following at Archway

William Lisson Bailey died 1915
Walter Ambrose Lucas Bailey  died  1917   
both probate are for Palmerston North, with the records being  held in Wellington
didn't find any for James Alexander Bailey there are however 51 James Bailey.

hope this helps.

jericho
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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 August 06 00:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this info.  I have much of the information on the brothers after they arrived in New Zealand, but their arrivals and first few years on the gold fields are somewhat vague.  The arrival dates are taken from their death certificates.

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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 August 06 07:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Doug,

Sorry not to be bearing good news but could you let us know where you believe the brothers to have sailed from, i.e. which country?  That would help us to narrow down the search a lot!

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Bunny
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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 August 06 08:11 BST (UK) »
The brothers were all born in Tasmania, Australia but their mother, Jane Manning BAILEY, returned to London about 1856, leaving just William and James in Australia.  They visited London in 1857 and then sailed to NZ together, Walter following three years later.

All sailed from England (the family was living in London), but William, James and Walter may have stopped in Australia (Tasmania) en route to catch up with friends.

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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 August 06 22:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Dougnz

I am currently researching my wifes family who were early settlers in Feilding. Your Bailey names seemed familiar to me and this morn I rediscovered where i saw them. Three of them, William, Walter and Henry occupy a page in the book" Swamps, Sandflies and Settlers" the history of Feiding and the Manchester Block. Pub Feilding and Districts Historical Society, 2000.

Have a look at it.
Living in Christchurch, New Zealand.

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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 August 06 00:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks, alamar.  That's them, all right.  My g-g-grandfather, Wal, was 13th mayor of Feilding if my memory serves me right.

What is the name of your wife's family?

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Doug

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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 August 06 10:32 BST (UK) »
Hi DougNZ

My wife's gt grandfather was a Henry COOMBE who married Christina MURRAY, one of the highland Scots from Turakina. They moved to Feilding when land was first made available for public sale. They had a farm in what is now North Street. All of the COOMBE graves and almost all of the MURRAY graves in the Feilding cemetery are her families. Poor old Henry suffered the ironic fate of being gored to death by his own bull as he led it along the Makino Road in 1892. Send me a PM if you want more info.

In relation to yr BAILEY brothers and as a born and bred Dunedin boy, I have to point out that gold was not discovered in Otago until 1861. They could not therefore have travelled to the Otago goldfields in 1857. Nelson perhaps but certainly not Otago.
Living in Christchurch, New Zealand.

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Re: BAILEY arrivals, 1857 &1860
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 August 06 11:50 BST (UK) »
Small world; I know the names, but only vaguely.  My grandparents lived almost on the corner of North Street and Kimbolton Road.  Originally it was a Sandilands' property until my great-grandfather bought it about 1930.

I over simplified the goldfields for this forum, although I wonder if the older two boys caught a sniff of the Nelson or Southland rushes in 1957.  Prior to that they were on the goldfields of Victoria in Australia.  They seem perfectly placed for Reid's discovery at Tuapeka in 1861 and were mining until at least 1864 when they turned their hands to sawmilling, eventually owning sawmills throughout Manawatu and Rangitikei.