JENKINS Neath Public House

[Prue]

I am looking for any information on Jenkin Jenkins born about 1798  married to Ann? . Jenkin Jenkins was a cordwainer  and in the Slaters Directory for 1858 he was the landlord of "The House Of Lords" in Old Market Street, Neath. Any suggestions about finding info on the public house and J. Jenkins and family would be appreciated.

Prue.

[margaret davies]

  Hello Prue,
                I think this is your family on the 1851 census,
   

        Jenkin Hd 53yrs cordwainer
        Ann     Wi 48Yrs brickmaker
        Jane    D   21Yrs brickmaker
        Ann      D   16Yrs Milliner
        Lydia    D    15Yrs
        Elizabeth D  8Yrs
         
        All born in Neath.
       
        I  think if you try the library in Neath they have a file with all the names of the pubs aand I think the publicans because one of my relitives kept the George and Dragon in Water street  about that time.  Hope this is of some help.           Margaret

[Cas (stallc)]

1841 for above family, if yours

HO107/1421/22 Folio 11  P 15

Water? Street, Neath

All born in county, image says Jenkins

Jenkin Jenkin 40, occ cannot make out - shop/shoe?
Ann Jenkin 35   
Margaret Jenkin 15 
Philip Jenkin 14
Jane Jenkin 10 
Ann Jenkin 7       
Lydia Jenkin 4 

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

This looks like a likely marriage, for childrens ages.  Could not find another match within timescale.  pm'd you info.

Cas

[Prue]

1841 for above family, if yours

HO107/1421/22 Folio 11  P 15

Water? Street, Neath

All born in county, image says Jenkins

Jenkin Jenkin 40, occ cannot make out - shop/shoe?
Ann Jenkin 35   

1841 for above family, if yours

HO107/1421/22 Folio 11 P 15

Water? Street, Neath

All born in county, image says Jenkins

Jenkin Jenkin 40, occ cannot make out - shop/shoe?
Ann Jenkin 35
Margaret Jenkin 15
Philip Jenkin 14
Jane Jenkin 10
Ann Jenkin 7
Lydia Jenkin 4

Cas

Thank you Cas and Margaret. This looks the right family as Jenkin Jenkins occupation is cordwainer on Elizabeth's marriage certificate. Elizabeth is 8 years old in 1851 census and she is 23  on her marriage certificate in 1865. So that all ties in well. I shall try your suggestion of contacting the library for information about the public house.  I appreciate the help from you both.
Prue

Margaret Jenkin 15 
Philip Jenkin 14
Jane Jenkin 10 
Ann Jenkin 7       
Lydia Jenkin 4 

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi Prue, you may already have this

1861

RG9 Piece 4086 Folio 93 Pg 31

Old Market Street (does not name specific pub next to name)

All born Neath

Jenkin Jenkins 60 hd, Cordwainer & Publican
Ann Jenkins 58 wife
Elizabeth Jenkins 18  un, Dressmaker

So this ties the census together, and they are still there in 1861.  Also on the 1861 'Water Street' (where they were in 1841) is just before 'Old Market Street', this seems to be mostly public houses, so he may possibly have moved to a different pub, or it could be renamed.  Just a thought. 

I looked through Old Market Street and could not find the pub you mentioned, although that is to say the enumerator may have ommitted it.

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

1871

RG10 Piece 5431 Folio 28 Pg 1

Old Market St

'House of Lords'

Ann Jenkins, hd, wid, 68, publican
John Rees m, 31, Son-in-law, mason
Elizabeth Rees, dau, m, 28, dressmaker
Ann Rees, 4, granddau
Elizabeth, 3,  "
Ellen, 2mths "

Cas

[margaret davies]

    Prue, on the 1881 census I`ve found your Lydia I think at, 23, Old Road, Coedfrank, Skewen.

    Rees Hughes Hd 45yrs Warfman
    Lydia              W 45yrs
    JENKIN            s  18yrs minor
    Phillip              s   15yrs minor
    ANN                 D   13yrs

    Edward            s   9yrs
    Thomas            s   3yrs
   
  Her age is correct from the previous census and to name her first son and only daughter  after her parents I,m sure this must be her,tryBMD to see if her marriage is on there,,,Margaret

[Prue]

This is great. thanks for the help.
I have e-mailed Neath library for information and I hope they will get back to me. On Free BMD I have found  a Lydia Jenkins and Rees Hughes marriage Dec. quarter 1858 Ref. 11a 683. that looks good.!
Regards,
Prue.