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COOK? 1851/71 look up please stoke dameral
« on: Thursday 10 August 06 23:25 BST (UK) »
hi there
can anyone check the census records for the 1841-51-and 71 for me please for henry cook born newport isle of white c 1846, i have just looked at the 1861 on free cen and found him in 5 holmans buildings in devonport rg9/1451 page4 sched; 16
that was great but he has a different name to parents they for some reason are recorded as DRAKE???????? this i know is poss if mum married twice or could be an error so if poss can some one help please???????
just want to find if they are drake or really cook
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Re: cook ? 1851/71 look up please stoke dameral
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 August 06 01:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Krissy,
Looked at the 1861 census - the father is William COOKE, the wife is Ann DRAKE, son Henry COOK

1851 it becomes a bit clearer although no William (maybe at sea):
HO107/1881 fol.35 p.27  Trafalgar Court, Stoke Damerel, Devon
Ann DRAKE wife marr 28  Seaman's Wife  Devon, Devonport
Henry Cook stepson   5    Scholar                  "                "

Freebmd.org has a marriage for a Willliam Cooke Dec Qu 1843 Isle of Wight, but 2 Anns on same page - surnames Weeks and Kearley
also a  birth for Henry Cook 1846 March Qu I. of Wight 8/213

Will check the other census, Barbara
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Re: cook ? 1851/71 look up please stoke dameral
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 August 06 11:58 BST (UK) »
thanks a million barbara that clears up that mystery when i looked at free cen it had  both mum and dad as drake phew!i thought it was a bit odd
many thanks  andlook forward to anymore  info that you may have
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 August 06 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Krissy,

On the actual census image William Cooke's surname could be read as Drake and looking closer, Ann's surname could also be Cooke if you try hard!!  It's odd that she would have a different surname when it says she is Wm's wife and married, but on the 1851 census she is definitely Drake. 

To complicate matters there is another Ann Drake on 1861 census, same age, birthplace and occupation but on her own (perhaps she ran round the block to be counted twice when the census enumerator called):
1861 RG9/1449 fol.148 p.70 45 James St, Stoke Damerel
Ann Drake  head  married 38  Seaman's wife  Devon, Devonport

I haven't found William in 1851 yet, (as I said, probably at sea) and the only Henry Cook(e) I can find so far in 1871 was a policeman....  where was he living in later census?
Barbara
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Re: cook ? 1851/71 look up please stoke dameral
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 August 06 17:17 BST (UK) »
hi barbara,
its gettin a little complicated eh? with ann being a poss drake perhaps williams first wife died hence the different surnames anyway henry j cook was living in 10 holmans buildings , in 1881 no sign of parents rg11  2209/38 page 65, he married elizabeth dann. we do know that the family remained in the same area as i my gran , henry j s daughter never moved out of the street even when married and i think its fair to assume henrys dad was in the navy but just thought there may be some clearance on the 1871 and 51 or poss 41 who knows with this lot!!!!!!!
thanks again for your help its a pain at the moment
krissy
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Re: cook ? 1851/71 look up please stoke dameral
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 August 06 19:39 BST (UK) »
Sorry can't find them in 1871 census.  Lots of Drakes in Stoke Damerell and lots of Cook(e)s everywhere!  Best thing might be to send for Henry's birth cert and find out who his parents really were. ::)
Barbara
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